Iran loses its only AWACS as Ahmadinejad threatens the world

[RACER X]

http://www2.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6280

Up above a big military parade in Tehran on Tuesday, Sept. 22, as Iranian president declared Iran's armed forces would "chop off the hands" of any power daring to attack his country, two air force jets collided in mid-air. One was Iran's only airborne warning and control system (AWACS) for coordinating long-distance aerial operations, DEBKAfile's military and Iranian sources disclose.

The proud military parade, which included a march-past, a line of Shehab-3 missiles and an air force fly-past, was planned to give Ahmadinejad a dazzling send-off for New York and add steel to his UN Assembly speech Wednesday.

Dubbed "Simorgh" (a flying creature of Iranian fable which performs wonders in mid-flight), the AWACS' appearance, escorted by fighter jets, was to have been the climax for the Iranian Air force's fly-past over the parade. Instead, it collided with one of escorting planes, a US-made F-5E, and both crashed to the ground in flames. All seven crewmen were killed.

Eye witnesses reported that the flaming planes landed on the mausoleum burial site of the Islamic revolution's founder Ruhollah Khomeini, a national shrine. According to Western observers, no distress signals came from either cockpit indicating that the collision and explosions were sudden and fast.

DEBKAfile's military sources say the disaster was a serious blow to the Iranian Air Force not long after its first and only AWACS went into service in April 2008. It was a renovated version of the Russian Ilyushin 76, part of Saddam Hussein's air force before it was transferred to Iran in 1991 during the first Gulf War.

Tehran hired Russian technicians to carry out renovations and install up-to-date radar. At the launching ceremony of the upgraded AWACS, Air Force commander Brig. Gen. Ahmad Miqani boasted its new radar systems were made in Iran and able to spot any airplane or missile at a distance of 1,000 kilometers from Iran's borders.

The loss of this airborne control system has left Iran's air force and air and missile defenses without "electronic eyes" for surveillance of the skies around its borders.


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[Mikey]

Lol. Somone needs to get a picture of the collision for a fail pic.

[CasterTroy]

The proud military parade, which included a march-past, a line of Shehab-3 missiles and an air force fly-past, was planned to give Ahmadinejad a dazzling send-off for New York and add steel to his UN Assembly speech Wednesday.



Looks like he'll be ordering a rush shipment of "Extenz" instead :lol:

[pauldun170]

For those who prefer to read articles lacking stupidity


Iranian Military Planes Crashes in Annual Parade
By THOMAS NEWDICK
Published: 22 Sep 2009 18:49
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TEHRAN - Iran's sole Simorgh AWACS aircraft was lost during a military parade Sept. 22, one of two Iranian military aircraft that crashed in Tehran while participating in a display to mark the anniversary of the start of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War.

The Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force operated a single Simorgh, a former Iraqi Air Force Adnan. The Adnan AWACS was in turn a modification of a Soviet-built Ilyushin Il-76 transport.
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The Simorgh collided with one of the Air Force's Northrop F-5E Tiger II fighters over the area of the Imam Khomeyni Shrine, southern Tehran. According to eyewitnesses, the crash occurred immediately after the parade. Apparently, no mayday call was issued.

Both aircraft crashed in flames. Initial reports indicate that seven crewmembers were killed in the crash.

In total, Iraq built three AWACS aircraft, one Baghdad, and two Baghdad-2s, the latter later renamed Adnans. One Adnan and the Baghdad were evacuated to Iran during the 1991 Gulf War, while the second Adnan was destroyed on the ground by a coalition air strike in January 1991.

The exact status of the Iranian Simorgh and its onboard systems was long uncertain. However, photographs suggest that the aircraft was equipped with a newly fitted functioning radar suite.


http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20090922-0

[derf]

Whoops!

[Riceaholic]

Whoops!

Fo' reallzz...

[derf]

Wow, seriously, for us to loose one is nothing, we got a bunch of them sitting on a shelf somewhere, for Iran to loose one, that is their entire national defense strategy. Seriously, they are completely open. And to loose an F15 too they dont have too many of those, and what is even worse is their need for good spare parts, and to loose a whole plane really screwed them

[RACER X]

Wow, seriously, for us to loose one is nothing, we got a bunch of them sitting on a shelf somewhere, for Iran to loose one, that is their entire national defense strategy. Seriously, they are completely open. And to loose an F15 too they dont have too many of those, and what is even worse is their need for good spare parts, and to loose a whole plane really screwed them

F5e.......

[derf]

Yeh yeh yeh, still an outdated plane with few or no spares available which arent questionable quality black market or canibalized off the few other aircraft they have remaining in their fleet, which dates back to before the iranian revolution in the 70s

[pauldun170]

Wow, seriously, for us to loose one is nothing, we got a bunch of them sitting on a shelf somewhere, for Iran to loose one, that is their entire national defense strategy. Seriously, they are completely open. And to loose an F15 too they dont have too many of those, and what is even worse is their need for good spare parts, and to loose a whole plane really screwed them

ummmmmmmmm

no

Yeh yeh yeh, still an outdated plane with few or no spares available which arent questionable quality black market or canibalized off the few other aircraft they have remaining in their fleet, which dates back to before the iranian revolution in the 70s

ummmmmm
no

[askmrjesus]

NSA Recording Confirms Confusion in Iranian Air Disaster.
BY Heywood Jablome, API
09/23/2009

Unnamed sources at the National Security Administration, leaked a tape to media outlets earlier today, that reveals panic and confusion as the cause of an Iranian military aircraft collision that claimed the lives of seven crewmen.

The crash between an Iranian Air Force AWACS plane, and an F4E fighter plane, occurred just moments after a military parade attended by Mahood Achmedickintheass.

The following transcript was translated and released early this morning:

AWACS Radar Operator #1: BLIP! I see a BLIP!

AWACS Radar Operator #2: I no see blip.

OP #1: Is BLIP! Right there on screen!

OP #2: Is not blip, is Hummus.

OP #1:Is not Hummus, is blip!

OP #2: You have Hummus for lunch, and you are pig. Is Hummus.

Op #1: Move too fast for Hummus, and I have Cous Cous for lunch.

Pilot: Plane! Plane! Crash Alarm!!!

Op #1: Told you it was blip!

(end transmission)


JC

[Dave]

Yeh yeh yeh, still an outdated plane with few or no spares available which arent questionable quality black market or canibalized off the few other aircraft they have remaining in their fleet, which dates back to before the iranian revolution in the 70s

the f5s were designed from the start to be cheap to build operate and maintain with its sights set squarely on the third world. Iran has them completely reverse engineered at this point and leaned heavily on the design for their local built azherkesh. No excuses for something that nimble colliding though lol. i heard they had been using their last running f14 as an awacs. Wonder what they'll do now :lol

[HurricaneHeather]

Mahood Achmedickintheass.

The following transcript was translated and released early this morning:

AWACS Radar Operator #1: BLIP! I see a BLIP!

AWACS Radar Operator #2: I no see blip.

OP #1: Is BLIP! Right there on screen!

OP #2: Is not blip, is Hummus.

OP #1:Is not Hummus, is blip!

OP #2: You have Hummus for lunch, and you are pig. Is Hummus.

Op #1: Move too fast for Hummus, and I have Cous Cous for lunch.

Pilot: Plane! Plane! Crash Alarm!!!

Op #1: Told you it was blip!

(end transmission)


JC

This is the only part of this whole thread that I bothered to read because it wasn't in code. Thanks (as always) for making some random thread about something I know/care nothing about mildly entertaining. :dthumb:

[pauldun170]

Iran has a pretty substantial industrial complex. Their aerospace industry is pretty developed.It's tough (ask South Korea, India, France, China, Israel) to develop decent engines so they do rely somewhat on foreign expertise. Due to sanctions and tons of other political crap imposed on them they have been restricted in what they can do in terms of metallurgy so airframes are more likely going to be refurbished stuff from current inventory.

They still have I think about 20 airworthy F-14's with spares and a few more capable of being refurbished. They were used as AWACS during the Iraq-Iran war.

They've invested some $$$ in ground based systems so losing the AWACS isn't a huge loss as the defense doctrine wasn't built around it. Either way, they'll probably have another one up soon enough now that they have experience with it.

On a side note...despite the eclectic mix of ghetto fabulous equipment, they apparently have some top notch low level fliers over there.

[Trip]

I love this guy, he is epic fail of the political world. Even when he is spouting off about the Holocaust being fake, you just want to go up to the guy and give him a high five. :lol:

[goof2]

Iran has a pretty substantial industrial complex. Their aerospace industry is pretty developed.It's tough (ask South Korea, India, France, China, Israel) to develop decent engines so they do rely somewhat on foreign expertise. Due to sanctions and tons of other political crap imposed on them they have been restricted in what they can do in terms of metallurgy so airframes are more likely going to be refurbished stuff from current inventory.

They still have I think about 20 airworthy F-14's with spares and a few more capable of being refurbished. They were used as AWACS during the Iraq-Iran war.

They've invested some $$$ in ground based systems so losing the AWACS isn't a huge loss as the defense doctrine wasn't built around it. Either way, they'll probably have another one up soon enough now that they have experience with it.

On a side note...despite the eclectic mix of ghetto fabulous equipment, they apparently have some top notch low level fliers over there.

I have seen it repeated a number of times and in a number of places (history channel being one), but I don't know for sure. After the Shaw was deposed and the American support crews got the hell out of the country, didn't the Iranians discover the fire control systems in their F-14s no longer worked?

[shmike]

On a side note...despite the eclectic mix of ghetto fabulous equipment, they apparently have some top notch low level fliers over there.


True.

As long as by "top notch" you mean "can't keep from bumping into each other and crashing into a national monument in a giant ball of flames during a PR event." :lol:

[BobTheBiker]

True.

As long as by "top notch" you mean "can't keep from bumping into each other and crashing into a national monument in a giant ball of flames during a PR event." :lol:

yes, thats precisel what he meant.

[pauldun170]

I have seen it repeated a number of times and in a number of places (history channel being one), but I don't know for sure. After the Shaw was deposed and the American support crews got the hell out of the country, didn't the Iranians discover the fire control systems in their F-14s no longer worked?

I guess it didn't bother them much since they went ahead and used them to great effect during the Iran-Iraq war resulting in 40+ kills compliments of the f-14 squadrons.

[pauldun170]

True.

As long as by "top notch" you mean "can't keep from bumping into each other and crashing into a national monument in a giant ball of flames during a PR event." :lol:

yes, thats precisel what he meant.

No that's not what I meant but I will concede that was funny

[Particle Man]

oops :lol:


and AMJ: :lmao: