Teacher fired for drinking on FB

[Smittie61984]

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/21586641/detail.html

BARROW COUNTY, Ga. -- A former Barrow County teacher is suing the North Georgia school district, alleging she was forced to step down after photos and an expletive were shown on her Facebook profile.

Ashley Payne claimed the Barrow County school district violated state labor law because she was never told she was entitled to a hearing. Her attorney, Richard Storrs, said the 24-year-old former Apalachee High School teacher was "not made aware of her rights" and should be granted the hearing

She claimed her principal said because her profile page had of pictures of her with beer mugs and glasses of wine from when she went on vacation to Europe, she had to go.

“I visited the Guinness Brewery, I went to Italy and had wine. I went to the Temple Bar District of Dublin and drank some alcohol there like any normal adult would,” said Payne.

Payne and her friends took pictures at various places across Europe. A few pictures showed her with a glass of beer or wine.

“They’re not even of me drinking the drinks and I don’t look like I’m intoxicated in any way or doing anything provocative or inappropriate,” Payne said.

Payne, an English Teacher at Appalachee High, said she was called into the principal’s office where she was told that because of her pictures and an expletive used on one of her posts that she should immediately resign.

“The principal said that he’d talked to the superintendent so he represented that the decision had already been made and that the only way to avoid the suspension on my record would be to resign,” said Payne.

Payne’s Facebook page is private and she doesn’t allow students or strangers to become her friends on the social networking site. Several fellow teachers are included in her pictures including one who was with her on the European vacation.

But Payne is the only one out of a job.

“I did not think that any of this could jeopardize my job because I was just doing what adults do and have drinks on vacation and being responsible about it,” said Payne.

Barrow County school Superintendent Ron Saunders declined comment on the lawsuit because it is a personnel issue.

Payne resigned from her position Aug. 27. She had worked at the school for two years.

Pretty ironic because I know this town/county and it's slammed full of liquor stores and bars. Infact I believe the main city use to be called "Juggstown".

[CrazyKell]

Wow. Absolutely ridiculous.

[Curb]

Stories like this make my blood boil.

[Smittie61984]

Yeah. Welcome to the Bible belt.

Winder, GA Walmart would be banned from "Peopleofwalmart.com" for being too fucked up. Though her school is actually a very nice area.

From what I have gathered locally she was actually a good teacher who was worth a damn.

[HokieDNA01]

Same thing happened at my sisters college (she majored in Special Ed). Student was denied her degree days before graduation because there was a picture of her in a pirate outfit for halloween with a plastic cup in her hand. the caption was "drunken pirate". My sister immediately pulled her page and now has it completely private. She won't even add me.

http://www.tothecenter.com/news.php?readmore=1702

[wildchild]

won't be long and there will be little spies running around digging into every facet of your life and telling you exactly how to live just to stay in the village.

ridiculous. hell one of our local high school teachers is a bartender. guess they'd faint at the thought of that.

[Kaneman]

And everyone is worried that Obama is going to take our freedom? Give me a fucking break, its the people of America fucking this country up more than the politicians ever dreamed.

[Rider]

Social networking FTL. None of you fuckers are worth my job.

[Kaneman]

Social networking FTL. None of you fuckers are worth my job.

The more people bow down the more we all lose.

[Rider]

The more people bow down the more we all lose.

Yeah that was a joke, this forum is a form of social networking and I post here.

[Kaneman]

Yeah that was a joke, this forum is a form of social networking and I post here.

Hang on, I'm looking for my Captain Obvious picture...

I know dude, I helping get your point across.

[Rider]

Hang on, I'm looking for my Captain Obvious picture...

I know dude, I helping get your point across.

Most people on here can't when I'm joking :lol Maybe you can though. :idk:

[Kaneman]

Most people on here can't when I'm joking :lol Maybe you can though. :idk:

Well I just assumed since you were posting that on a social networking site...

[z06boy]

That's pretty messed up. I 'assumed' she was at a party throwing down and half/totally naked or something but just having a glass of wine or a beer in a picture ? Give me a freakin' break.

Sounds like they were just looking for a reason to get rid of her and jumped at this chance.

[Rider]

Sounds like they were just looking for a reason to get rid of her and jumped at this chance.

That was my thought. She must have refused to fuck the principle or something. :lol

[karl_1052]

It sounds to me like the administration wanted her out and were just looking for an excuse.

She will win that lawsuit easily.

[skiergirl]

yeah and I'm sure she can't wait to get her job back and go back to work at a place where everyone knows what happened and that apparently the administration doesn't want her. Sounds like fun to me...

[wildchild]

yeah and I'm sure she can't wait to get her job back and go back to work at a place where everyone knows what happened and that apparently the administration doesn't want her. Sounds like fun to me...

that's the crappy part. what do you really win if you get your job back? lost wages and less respect then before from your peers and admin.

[CrazyKell]

Why is North America so uptight about drinking anyways? :scratch: :idk:

[Rider]

Why is North America so uptight about drinking anyways? :scratch: :idk:

Too many "christians" here.

[Kaneman]

Why is North America so uptight about drinking anyways? :scratch: :idk:

Because altering your mental state using a chemical for any reason that is not directly related to saving your life or alleviating pain caused by a real medical condition is bad. Mmmkay?

[CrazyKell]

Because altering your mental state using a chemical for any reason that is not directly related to saving your life or alleviating pain caused by a real medical condition is bad. Mmmkay?

Hmmm....I hope you're joking, but I've been known to not get your jokes before. So I'm going to assume that you're joking just to be safe.

I'm not talking about binge drinking. But having a glass of wine with dinner, or a beer is widely accepted throughout Europe yet staunchly frowned upon in most of North America. Just find the cultural difference odd.

[Kaneman]

Hmmm....I hope you're joking, but I've been known to not get your jokes before. So I'm going to assume that you're joking just to be safe.

I'm not talking about binge drinking. But having a glass of wine with dinner, or a beer is widely accepted throughout Europe yet staunchly frowned upon in most of North America. Just find the cultural difference odd.

No, I'm not joking at all. That is the prevailing mentality behind the laws and views on alcohol and drugs in America.

[HurricaneHeather]

Hmmm....I hope you're joking, but I've been known to not get your jokes before. So I'm going to assume that you're joking just to be safe.

I'm not talking about binge drinking. But having a glass of wine with dinner, or a beer is widely accepted throughout Europe yet staunchly frowned upon in most of North America. Just find the cultural difference odd.

I always understood that the difference was in Europe they don't(or at least used to not) have a good way to filter water so they would ferment things to kill the bacteria or whatever. That's why it is so normal there because water wasn't safe to drink.

That of course doesn't explain why NA has a problem with it, just the difference in the mindset of Euros to Americans.

[CrazyKell]

I always understood that the difference was in Europe they don't(or at least used to not) have a good way to filter water so they would ferment things to kill the bacteria or whatever. That's why it is so normal there because water wasn't safe to drink.

That of course doesn't explain why NA has a problem with it, just the difference in the mindset of Euros to Americans.


Hmmm....didn't know that but it would make sense I suppose.

When I was in Germany a tour guide told us all about how beer there is considered a food so employers can't stop you from drinking on the job and it's perfectly okay to drink at lunch. :lol:

[HurricaneHeather]

Hmmm....didn't know that but it would make sense I suppose.

When I was in Germany a tour guide told us all about how beer there is considered a food so employers can't stop you from drinking on the job and it's perfectly okay to drink at lunch. :lol:

Yeah my dad told me about that. He was in Germany for ministry when he was pretty young and his fellow American Conservative Pentacostal Christian friends nearly fell out of their chairs when the German pastors were getting drunk after church on Sunday. :lol:

[z06boy]

One problem with Europe or at least parts of it is serving warm beer...that would stop me from drinking it right there. :lol:

[CrazyKell]

One problem with Europe or at least parts of it is serving warm beer...that would stop me from drinking it right there. :lol:

It's not warm, it's served at the optimum temperature for that type of beer. Cask ale should be served at a warmer (not WARM but warmer) temperature than other ales or lagers. :idk:

[z06boy]

It's not warm, it's served at the optimum temperature for that type of beer. Cask ale should be served at a warmer (not WARM but warmer) temperature than other ales or lagers. :idk:

I guess it's all relative because room temperature is WARM to me. I like my beer cold and the colder the better. :idk:

I don't drink Cask ale so I wouldn't know.

*edited*

I guess this is the suggested temps for beer and when I said room temperature it was based on what I was told by a friend that just got back from France and was staying in a hotel near the France/Belgium border. :idk:

Wheat beers and pale lagers at fridge temperature, 45-50°F (7-10°C)
Pale ales, English bitter, amber ales or dark lagers at 50-55°F (10-13°C)
Belgian ales, barley wines and similar strong beers at around 55°F (13°C)
Porters, stouts and other dark ales at 55-60° F (13-15°C)
Some of the stronger Belgian beers should be served close to room temperature

[CrazyKell]

They're not served at room temperature. It's just not as cold as a 'cold beer' to you.

[pauldun170]

It's not warm, it's served at the optimum temperature for that type of beer. Cask ale should be served at a warmer (not WARM but warmer) temperature than other ales or lagers. :idk:

There ya go..
I actually prefer most beers at room temperature or a little below.

[CrazyKell]

There ya go..
I actually prefer most beers at room temperature or a little below.

I knew there was a reason I liked you so much. :D

[Rider]

There ya go..
I actually prefer most beers at room temperature or a little below.

This is true. The warmer a beer, the more flavor it has. Why do you think they serve Budweiser at just above freezing? To mask the horrendous flavor.

[z06boy]

They're not served at room temperature. It's just not as cold as a 'cold beer' to you.

Read my edit...the stronger Belgian beers are.

[karl_1052]

that's the crappy part. what do you really win if you get your job back? lost wages and less respect then before from your peers and admin.

You can get your lost wages back, then find another job. Maybe have the problem with the administration exposed, forcing the people in power to resign.

[wildchild]

One problem with Europe or at least parts of it is serving warm beer...that would stop me from drinking it right there. :lol:

ah but it's not warm, it's room temp. room temp in a lower level bar or cellar type room which is kept rather cool. you really don't notice it at all.

[wildchild]

Why is North America so uptight about drinking anyways? :scratch: :idk:

because America is full of "my shit don't stink, do gooder, perfect life until I get caught then I'll pray for forgiveness bible thumpers" who refuse to believe people could be happy living their life anyway other then the prescribed pentecostal,catholic, or other christian faith of choice way. Their very willing to tell you the err of your ways and how you should be more like them, then you'd be happy.

[Apoc]

warm beer? really? you people are sick.

[karl_1052]

warm beer? really? you people are sick.

100% the only things that should be served at room temperature are 18 years old.

Scotch and women.

[wildchild]

100% the only things that should be served at room temperature are 18 years old.

Scotch and women.

now we're on to something. I'll take one of each. LOL

[z06boy]

ah but it's not warm, it's room temp. room temp in a lower level bar or cellar type room which is kept rather cool. you really don't notice it at all.

Right and I also stated it's a relative term so to me if we're talking about beer...soft drinks...milk...etc...if it's not cold...and is room temperature...it's warm. :lol:

I didn't mean warm as in heated.

When my meal is warm and I don't eat it in time and it sits there and gets "room temperature" I say it's cold....BUT I'm sure some expert here will be quick to tell me "well it's not cold" as in it's not refridgerated !! :rofl: :rofl:

[wildchild]

[QUOTE=z06boy;293033]Right and I also stated it's a relative term so to me if we're talking about beer...soft drinks...milk...etc...if it's not cold...and is room temperature...it's warm. :lol:

QUOTE]


yeah I didn't see that till after I had posted. LOL whadda ya want I'm slow. LOL

[z06boy]

[QUOTE=z06boy;293033]Right and I also stated it's a relative term so to me if we're talking about beer...soft drinks...milk...etc...if it's not cold...and is room temperature...it's warm. :lol:

QUOTE]


yeah I didn't see that till after I had posted. LOL whadda ya want I'm slow. LOL

:lol: Hey it happens !! :cheers:

[Particle Man]

warm beer? really? you people are sick.

if it's the right kind of beer it's actually kind of good...

[askmrjesus]

if it's the right kind of beer it's actually kind of good...

An ice-cold stout would be a travesty.

JC

[LeeNetworX]

Why do you think they serve Budweiser at just above freezing? To mask the horrendous flavor.

Budweiser has flavor???

[wildchild]

Budweiser has flavor???

what's budweiser? sounds like frog piss.

[Rider]

what's budweiser? sounds like frog piss.

It is.

[Particle Man]

An ice-cold stout would be a travesty.

JC

truth

[sherri_chickie]

Sounds to me like the school board was looking for an excuse to get rid of her, otherwise the other teachers would have been reprimanded or fired as well.

[Amorok]

Why is North America so uptight about drinking anyways? :scratch: :idk:Because we're hypocrites and prudes at the same time. We'll let CSI show someone who was disemboweled then burned alive on TV, as long as there's no breasts exposed. Fuck our culture.

100% the only things that should be served at room temperature are 18 years old.

Scotch and women.I like my women a little warmer than room temperaure there Ted Bundy, but you have fun.

[Papa_Complex]

This doesn't sound like the typical case of someone being a complete ass and putting pictures of it up on Facebook. This is a case of a superior believing that a person isn't entitled to a normal life.

[Mr Lefty]

I just got an e-mail regarding security clearances and social networking sites. the jist of it is that they constitute a security risk... and can and will cause you to be denied a top level security clearance. they've started asking all the students who need top level security clearances during their interviews if they have them. I coach them all to delete their pages, and to say no.

I've said this here before... but my old room mate and many of my sisters co-workers were fired from Alaska Airlines for having "objective" material on their PRIVATE myspace page. my old room mate had a pic of her and my sis standing next to a male flight attendant... all in uniform, saying "here's Jeanie and I making Will look like a Pimp" they fired her because "you can't refer to flight attendants as PIMPS" :wtf:

anyways... I think I still have mine... but haven't been on them in forever. just don't really care anymore.

[askmrjesus]

I like my women a little warmer than room temperaure there Ted Bundy, but you have fun.

:lol:

JC

[Homeslice]

Well I just assumed since you were posting that on a social networking site...

If you call this a social networking site......It's not.........Also, people can't do a google search on your (real) name and find your posts here.

[Homeslice]

This doesn't sound like the typical case of someone being a complete ass and putting pictures of it up on Facebook. This is a case of a superior believing that a person isn't entitled to a normal life.

Actually, it sounds like a boss who already dislikes an employee, and is searching for a way to justify firing him/her. Not surprising for a school or small business, since their management often consists of seedy people.

I can guarantee you that HR at most firms (at least the large, professional ones) do not waste their time googling each and every single employee, unless they are being investigated for some reason, or being considred for a major promotion

[karl_1052]

I like my women a little warmer than room temperaure there Ted Bundy, but you have fun.

To each their own, but I know mine won't talk back.


:lol