I'll take a CTS-V instead.

Same basic motor, waaay better looking and 4 doors.

ditto on that!!!!!

in coupe or wagon.

That's been my gripe with GM for many years now.
Fit, finish, and materials really don't get distinctly better as the price tag goes up.
(this isn't universally true, mind you, but not far from it)

I'll just keep my old 2002 car that's long been paid for...similar power and close to 1000 lbs. less.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...auto-show.html

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Interior looks OK, but it's sad when a base-model Civic has more side-support in the seats. How are you going to do any high-performance driving when you're swimming in your seat?

And I wonder if that oil pressure gauge actually reacts to changing RPM & temperature like it's supposed to, or does it just stay in a "normal" range all the time to prevent clueless people from getting scared.

Not too bad imho. Those gauges are kind of in a weird spot...sucks to have to take your eyes off of the road to look down at them I would think.

That's why I like the headsup display that I have in the Vette which also helps you see your speed instantly when the popo pops up from over the hill or around the corner. :lol

The front of the Camaro looks decent I think...not too crazy about the back of it and yes 4,000 lbs. is a lot.

Its nice that they offer it. They finally have an answer for the Mustang GT500.
Unfortunately, the Camaro looks like 'that' but that is one hell of a drivetrain.

^^^^True...and I didn't even think of that comparison.^^^^

I can certainly understand reservations about the interior but complaints about the price, weight, and fuel economy of this car are ridiculous to me. This car should have similar interior size and performance to the BMW M6 but will cost half as much, have more power, weigh the same (or less), and get similar (or better) fuel economy. The Camaro should also hold up to the similarly priced (and previously mentioned) GT500 Mustang. I believe both the GT500 and the M6 have sold pretty well.

All the complaints about this ZL1 makes me think there are significantly better options available, but I can't come up with any.:shrug: