call DDM... they're kick ass to deal with.

my first order was all fucked up because I went through XenonExpert.com... they basicly take orders then have Apexcone ship them (apexcone owns DDM.com) so I called DDM and they canceled the order through XE... then replaced the order through them, and gave me 15%off for being military. AND shipped it over night for free.

Yeah I tried to call them today but they were closed I think due to the holiday. Funny thing, the machine said they were open yet when I pushed 1 for sales or 2 for tech the line just rang and rang.

I just hope ther prices dont jump or somin. How long have they been discounted like this?

no idea... gonna order mine on Monday. didn't know about the sale till tigger posted... but was planning on this purchase for a while... so I'm not gonna be too upset if it goes back... but it'd be nice to save that $30

Well i found out from another source that they do make 881 bulbs. And upon further inspection of my bike. As long as they make the bulbs... I'm ordering it monday as well.

Mine are on any time the key is in the on position, even while the starter is cranking, which is why I don't think I'll ever install HIDs on this bike.

You could always wire in a power switch in line. That way you just turn them on after the bike is running.

check out Tripageled.com they make a relay to delay the HID's. I didn't need it on my ZZR as the lights delayed anyways.... but the RR Trip killed his battery numerous times... so I bought the relay to avoid that (he got one too eventually) mine worked great for a while... then boom I had no lights... disconnected the relay... and they worked perfectly.

the relay was fine... just the way we wired them the wires touched and shorted the relay out. :idk: oh well.

I think the relay was like $50

Me and Trip have already had this fight but I say again... 3 years and no problems with the HIDs and my battery is the original unit. :idk: what was going on with Trip and I don't know where he got his HIDs but DDM swears that their ballast only draws 6 amps during start up which is actually LESS than some aftermarket halogens. Especially those with the higher lumen/wattage ratings.:idk:

Maybe Honda uses a crap stator. I have my Power Commander, HIDs, LEDs, J&M Integrator, Valentine 1, alarm, phone charger, and my GPS hooked up to my bike and I have never had a problem.:lol:

Well I thought current draw (amps) was calcuated by dividing the watts output by the voltage. So if I have a standard 55w halogen, divide that by 12V and that's 4.6 amps continuous draw. Right?

Thanks for the links on the relay ebbs..

If this HID is really only 6 amps startup.......then I probably wouldn't need the relay........But I dunno, seems hard to believe.

Oh and then they drop to 3.4 amps, I think... Heck, I ran 100w bulbs on my '03 without incident... In fact, no bs but I haven't even bought a bike battery for at least 15 years, I don't think. Of course, I've only owned Yamaha and Suzuki in that time frame so...:lol: