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RACER X 09-18-2011 10:24 AM

wow, homemade ti frame
 
dude welded up his own frame


http://i54.tinypic.com/2yto4ft.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/6rt4zr.jpg

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/in...?topic=51759.0

Adeptus_Minor 09-18-2011 10:56 AM

Damn...
I don't even want to think about what that much titanium tubing set him back, let alone the welding & forming setup.
Some people have way too much money... and I should be one of them. [/bitter]

anthonyk 09-18-2011 11:57 AM

Somewhere in that thread he mentions a little bit of the costs involved. Seems like a lot of work for 12 lbs of weight savings, but like most DIY guys, I'm guessing that wasn't really the point. :dthumb:

Krypt Keeper 09-18-2011 04:39 PM

nice...

met a guy this past spring at a group meet that use to own a ducati race team. Couple of his riders have been to the meets in the past. He was an older guy, cool as hell. Rode to the meet in the rain on Monster. He owns 1 of 3 full ti Monsters.

Its his baby :dribble:

shmike 09-18-2011 05:22 PM

FUCK THAT!

No way I'm riding on a frame made anywhere other than an approved mass production factory.

Right, Ed? ;)

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthrea...ght=frame+weld

RACER X 09-18-2011 06:10 PM

show me the frame w/ the hobbled up head tube.

derf 09-18-2011 10:17 PM

the frame needs more air/speed holes for ram air

Riceaholic 09-19-2011 02:12 AM

Those welds are beautiful. that's the next step if I keep pouring money into my dinosaur....:lol:

Particle Man 09-19-2011 07:32 AM

Holy crap

derf 09-19-2011 09:04 AM

I just want to know how he was able to make that entire thing without it discoloring at all

Rider 09-19-2011 09:20 AM

Cool shiz right there.

RACER X 10-04-2011 07:48 AM

finished bike

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...S/DSC01131.jpg
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...S/DSC01122.jpg
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/r...S/DSC01124.jpg

OneSickPsycho 10-04-2011 08:59 AM

That's pretty fucking hot. Needs to do something about that tail light and I've seen trick billet timing belt covers that would looke fucking money on that...

RACER X 10-04-2011 09:09 AM

i;ve been thinking about the belt covers myself, i i like open covers dunno if a person actually rides teh bike if you want open covers, exposed to the elements and rocks and such vs a "show" bike no biggie.

OneSickPsycho 10-04-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 492933)
i;ve been thinking about the belt covers myself, i i like open covers dunno if a person actually rides teh bike if you want open covers, exposed to the elements and rocks and such vs a "show" bike no biggie.

I don't think I'd be too worried about rocks and shit...

marko138 10-04-2011 09:36 AM

Wow. Impressive shit.

RACER X 10-04-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 492936)
I don't think I'd be too worried about rocks and shit...

a belt is like $200, let alone the labor.

hmmmm

somebody here locally has clear center covers, thats may be the way to go IMO

OneSickPsycho 10-04-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 492949)
a belt is like $200, let alone the labor.

hmmmm

somebody here locally has clear center covers, thats may be the way to go IMO

Unless you live somewhere really gravelly, I'd say the chances of one ending up in that belt are pretty damn slim...

Adeptus_Minor 10-05-2011 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 492920)
finished bike

Wow...that's sexy as hell. :whatwhat:

Smittie61984 10-09-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 490545)
I just want to know how he was able to make that entire thing without it discoloring at all

Been a while since I welded anything (and never titanium). But Titanium requires a shielding gas. Titanium reacts with oxygen like crazy. So much so that when in liquid form (pretty much what your weld will be) it can actually remove oxygen from hydrogen in water (which is all around us). That creates hydrogen gas which is not good because hydrogen is sluttier than a fat chick at last call and will react with anything.

I think you are suppose to use helium for Ti which is also super expensive becuase it requires a lot (He is much lighter than air). Because you use a non-reactive noble gas you won't get the discoloration taht oxygen causes.

Adeptus_Minor 10-10-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 493812)
But Titanium requires a shielding gas.

I think you are suppose to use helium for Ti which is also super expensive becuase it requires a lot (He is much lighter than air). Because you use a non-reactive noble gas you won't get the discoloration taht oxygen causes.

Why wouldn't you use argon?

anthonyk 10-10-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 493863)
Why wouldn't you use argon?

Yep, that's what the guy in this thread did. He mentioned it a few pages into the linked thread.

Smittie61984 10-10-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 493863)
Why wouldn't you use argon?

Argon would work. I just thought I remember some Ti welders I knew mentioning they like to use helium for Ti. Helium is not reactive at all while Argon can be slightly more reactive due to a larger electron cloud. As in it is easier for other elements to pull away an electron from Argon which has a larger electron cloud (where electrons are farther away from the nucleus) than it is from helium which has a much smaller one.

But from a macro level such as welding a Ti frame I doubt it matters much.


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