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Gas Man

11-20-2011 11:44 AM

Federal court upholds NY MC checkpoints

This is COMPLETE BS

It is complete discrimination and profiling at it's best.

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WSJ

Associated Press
ALBANY, N.Y. — A federal judge has rejected motorcyclists' claims their constitutional rights were violated by New York State Police highway checkpoints that stopped thousands of riders and ticketed many.

Judge Gary Sharpe concludes the main focus of the 2008 statewide initiative by troopers, timed to coincide with rallies drawing crowds of riders, was safety.

Sharpe says that distinguishes them from "a general interest in crime control" that could have amounted to unconstitutional seizures when there's no "individualized suspicion of wrongdoing."

Four motorcyclists sued troopers claiming safety was a mere pretext in looking for criminals.

According to Sharpe, 5,342 vehicles passed through 17 checkpoints in 2008.

Authorities inspected 2,278 and issued 1,064 tickets, including 365 for helmet violations, 99 for other safety violations, 600 for non-safety violations, and made four criminal arrests.

pauldun170

11-20-2011 11:59 AM

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Most riders with approved helmets are waved through the checkpoints, where they slow but don't stop, he said.

Unless you are on a sportbike...then your ass is pulled over.

Gas Man

11-20-2011 12:39 PM

I wear a half DOT around here. but on the road trips, I'm wearing a full face modular... they wouldn't stop me then.

But it's BS. I'm glad in Michigan they have ALL road block down as unconstitutional.

wildchild

11-20-2011 03:34 PM

yep I was going to go to Americade one year and they told me on the phone to expect to be stopped and ticketed if my pipes were anything but stock. Went somewhere else.

Particle Man

11-20-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wildchild (Post 499450)

yep I was going to go to Americade one year and they told me on the phone to expect to be stopped and ticketed if my pipes were anything but stock. Went somewhere else.

And now you know one of the reasons I don't go there anymore. Moira can tell you the other reasons from first hand experience.

Rangerscott

11-20-2011 08:52 PM

Ride with your willy out and see if they wave you one or tackle you.

fasternyou929

11-21-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 499457)

Ride with your willy out and see if they wave you one or tackle you.

Damn Freud.

Particle Man

11-21-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 499487)

Damn Freud.

:lol:

Gas Man

11-22-2011 10:04 AM

Well I have 50 state legal Harley slip ons... but they aren't stock... wonder what they would say.

Particle Man

11-22-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 499573)

Well I have 50 state legal Harley slip ons... but they aren't stock... wonder what they would say.

They'll give you a ticket to bust your balls because you're from out of state and bank on the odds being that you won't tavel all the way back to NY to contest it.

Gas Man

11-22-2011 08:26 PM

I call BS. And for the record, I almost drove clear back to knoxville for a speeding ticket, but 2 days before my court date a local lawyer contacted me and I hired him for less than what I would have paid in gas. But bottom line, I fought that bitch.

Particle Man

11-22-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 499640)

I call BS.

By all means - try 'em out :lol:

They're pricks in this state.

Gas Man

11-22-2011 08:57 PM

Well it goes with most things in NY

Particle Man

11-22-2011 08:59 PM

2 things this state does well: traffic fines and taxes.

tommymac

11-23-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 499655)

2 things this state does well: traffic fines and taxes.

That they do. What surprise dme with this is while the troopers were doing this upstate there wasnt a peep about NYC hwy patrol doing the same, making roadblocks just for bikes. These guys were impounding bikes like it was nothing, but a lot of people didnt have licenses and that sort of thing.

Smittie61984

11-24-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 499437)

Unless you are on a sportbike...then your ass is pulled over.

They'd have a feild day with an ABATE rally

Particle Man

11-24-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 499683)

I saw a little about it but not nearly as much as with this

fujimoh

11-24-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 499573)

Well I have 50 state legal Harley slip ons... but they aren't stock... wonder what they would say.

They are looking for the DOT stamp on the exhaust. No stamp, you get ticket

fujimoh

11-24-2011 08:30 PM

double post

azoomm

11-25-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 499454)

And now you know one of the reasons I don't go there anymore. Moira can tell you the other reasons from first hand experience.

because its filled with douchbags?

Particle Man

11-25-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 499910)

because its filled with douchbags?

Couldn't have said it better.

Gas Man

11-26-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fujimoh (Post 499871)

They are looking for the DOT stamp on the exhaust. No stamp, you get ticket

Again like I said, they are DOT 50 state legal slip ons.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/g...bmLocale=en_US

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These Screamin' Eagle products are 50-state street legal for sale and use on all vehicles, including those that are pollution controlled.

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These Screamin' Eagle products are street legal for sale and use on pollution controlled vehicles in the state of California.

Heck I don't think my stockers had a DOT stamp.

Particle Man

11-27-2011 08:14 AM

Like I said: they'll issue you a summons because it isn't stock and bank on you not appearing to dispute.

derf	11-27-2011 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 499972)

Heck I don't think my stockers had a DOT stamp.

I've never owned a motorycle with a stock exhaust (except the KLR)

Gas Man

11-29-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 499998)

Like I said: they'll issue you a summons because it isn't stock and bank on you not appearing to dispute.

Good luck sayings not stock.

And I would appear.

Particle Man

11-29-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 500152)

Good luck sayings not stock.

And I would appear.

Good. Fuck 'em

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