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Gas Man 12-09-2008 07:25 PM

Dyna Beads and How To install them
 
Dyna Beads

They are a GREAT GREAT GREAT product. You can install them by just placing the bag contents into the tire when when mounting the tire or as most of us will do, via the valve stem.

Most valve stems will allow the beads to just pour in, however some will be more diffcult due to obstructions in the valve stem itself. You can try rotating the tire back and forth 180 degrees to get them to pour in or if you have a metal valve stem as below follow those instructions.

A note from Jake, owner of Low Down Chop Shop.

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Also note that when you remove your weights that are on your wheels, just because your bike has 2.5 oz. of lead doesn't mean that you have to replace it with that much Dyna Beads. My bike had 2.5 oz. on the front and I put 1 oz. in and it was perfect.

The application amount is all based on three things:

Wheel Diameter
Tire Width
Tire Overall Diameter

These three things put together will deturmine how many ounces of Beads are installed. Also if a tire is a bit more out that it should be, it may require one extra ounce to smooth it out perfect.

I stock 1 oz thru 5 oz bags and kits to cover all BDM bikes, custom bikes, Harley, Metric, and sport bikes. If you need a custom application or for a auto, contact me through my
Most of my big dog owners get them from Low Down Chop Shop

Many of us have got them and many are probably on the fence. But if you got them, here's how you put them in.


Grab your supplies
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Cut the top off the applicator for easier pouring
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Grab your bag of beads
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Cut open the corner of the baggy to dispense into applicator bottle.
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Pour into the bottle
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Simply put that stuff aside and time to direct attention to the bike itself.

So I jacked up the sporty like so...
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Remove your valve stem cap
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Get your valve stem tool
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Spin out the valve stem slowly allowing the air to leak. At this point you can either let it all leak out or pull it out carefully. Be sure not to go to fast and put your hand over it, while keeping pressure down on the tool and stem. You are trying to keep the valve from flying accross the garage.

Out comes the valve
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Set this aside
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Hook up the tube to the valve stem
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Start to pour in the beads slowly. If they start to back up and won't flow into the rim like this read the next direction. If not skip over the next part for difficult bikes.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ds/Day9032.jpg
In some cases your beads may not flow in easily. My Big Dog was no problem the Harley was so I got to thinking outside the box sense I didn't have an engraver to aid me.

Loosen the valve stem nut holding it to the rim.
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Attach the tube
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Fill the tube and it will back up like before. But push the valve stem in and out shaking in the beads. You can fill the entire tube and then shake in. This worked great for both front and rear tires.
Now once you have all your beads in, remove the tube. If you had to do the difficulty step, tighten the nut.

Gas Man 12-09-2008 07:26 PM

Re-insert your valve in the stem
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http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ds/Day9018.jpg

Fill it with the proper air level
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Check the pressure to make sure its right.
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Now replace your valve stem cap
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Repeat for the rear or other tire
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Out with the valve
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Fill and re-assemble and put the valve stem back on. Ride and enjoy a smooth ride
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Again, contact Jake or just buy them off his website. he'll ship them to you SUPER FAST!!

ALSO, THIS IS A BIG ONE...

BUY 2 USES OF THESE. IF YOUR BIKE CALLS FOR 2 OZ PER TIRE. BUY ONE KIT AND THEN 2 MORE 2 OZ BAGS. THAT WAY IF YOU GET A FLAT SOMETIME VIA RIDING. YOU'LL HAVE A BACK UP SET OF BEADS!!!!

Dnyce 12-09-2008 09:44 PM

nice write up...is the only real benefit the fact that the wheel is balanced and you dont see any wheel weights on the wheel? makes sense for your chop, or any custom, but thats it unless....


do some places not balance when u get a tire mounted?

OneSickPsycho 12-09-2008 10:07 PM

I don't have the issue, or links, or anything, but I have read that MCN had an article a couple years ago where they tested these things and said they did nothing to help.

Amber Lamps 12-09-2008 10:16 PM

I know a lot of people swear by these,I just wish someone could give me an explanation of how this works...it doesn't make sense to me that the beads would congregate opposite the heavy "spot" on the tire. Oh and if they work,one benefit is you don't have to trust the fucking idiots at the Stealership to do it right (assholes!) and if you happen to spin your tire on the rim,the beads would keep the balance correct. Oh and you can go to car tire places and have your tires changed for $5-10 bucks or even free if you buy your tires there. Discount tire back home changed mine a couple times for free in a pinch,no balance tho'. Besides,with some tire bars and a bar stool,I can swap my own tires but I don't have a balancer.

Amber Lamps 12-09-2008 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 122222)
I don't have the issue, or links, or anything, but I have read that MCN had an article a couple years ago where they tested these things and said they did nothing to help.

I remember there were some different ones that didn't work but I was just at Ron Ayers getting my bike inspected and one of the mechanics were putting them in his bike. What I'd like to see is a demo video,showing an out of balance tire on the balance machine,install the beads and poof balanced tire! I've never seen concrete proof that this works...

Amber Lamps 12-09-2008 10:26 PM

5 Attachment(s)
hmmm here's what they say...

OneSickPsycho 12-09-2008 10:39 PM

You'd think they'd have some sort of video evidence of something this revolutionary actually working.

Gas Man 12-09-2008 11:07 PM

It makes no difference what the tire is mounted to. Chop, sportbike, car, truck...

These fucking things work like you would not believe!!!! Take my fuckin word!! I have ran these all year in both bikes. I want to run them in every tire I own.

Tiggers attached files explain it. I think of it as the beads spin out to the interior imperfections of the tire, fills in those imperfections and balances the tire. Understanding that it is the tire that is out of balence not the rim.

I believe Drewpy has these in the RC as well.

Amber Lamps 12-09-2008 11:31 PM

ok here's a demonstration that makes some sense!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN


SOLD!

Dave 12-09-2008 11:42 PM

interesting

Dnyce 12-09-2008 11:51 PM

im not arguing that they dont work, but ive never had a tire cupping problem that i know of, and ive never lost a wheel weight, so how is it better?

Amber Lamps 12-10-2008 12:10 AM

ummm aren't those chrome rims my brother? How about not having that gunk from stick on weights on them or even the weights uglying up your rims? How about not having some fucking idiot at the stealership scratch up your rims removing said weights. :idk: but I've had to go back to have my balance redone several times in the past and I've had huge problems with performance tires and balancing in the past on different cars and trucks I've owned.

Dnyce 12-10-2008 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 122351)
ummm aren't those chrome rims my brother? How about not having that gunk from stick on weights on them or even the weights uglying up your rims? How about not having some fucking idiot at the stealership scratch up your rims removing said weights. :idk: but I've had to go back to have my balance redone several times in the past and I've had huge problems with performance tires and balancing in the past on different cars and trucks I've owned.

no chrome homie, my rims are white like yours. talkin bikes here. i acknowledged the custom aspect/benefit-but like i said, are they better? ive never lost a weight-tire change dont take long, and i been goin to the same place for awhile, sometimes i hang out and watch em work, but i never had a prob. even if i gotta take my own weights off(i dont) so they dont scratch em up when they take em off at the tire shop, or just not have them balance my tire, buy beads, then go home and let all the air out, pour beads into it, and air it back up to get the same performance-id just take the fuckin weights off myself. that takes 2mins.

thats why my question is are they better. its a great idea if they work, gman says they do, but if its just for aesthetic aspects, thats perfectly fine, but not worth the extra hassle they would cause me.

never spun a tire on a streetbike-on my racebike whenever i get a new tire mounted, it moves about a 1/8" after the 1st launch, then never again

Gas Man 12-10-2008 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnyce (Post 122340)
im not arguing that they dont work, but ive never had a tire cupping problem that i know of, and ive never lost a wheel weight, so how is it better?

Its not just cosmetic. By doing this it ensures that your tires are ALWAYS balenced. By doing it the other way even if done correctly is only balanced from that point when its brand new. The beads will adjust every second the entire time they are in there.

Forget the cosmetic, forget the tire life extension... it makes the bike ride better.

For example... my 9R use to shake pretty good at 150mph. But maybe that was just the tires.

Plus these beads are cheaper than balancing. Truely if you wanted to... you could then change your own tires and then throw these in and you're done.

Further, you track guys... no more taping over your stock stick on or crimp on weights. Cause they aren't there!!

Mr Lefty 12-10-2008 03:19 AM

I've used these... not this brand for my truck... cause when you get into 35"+ tires they tend to not be perfectly round and often WAY out of round.

also when wheeling wheel weights get stripped off really easy...

never had an issue with these... never thought about them for the bike... be nice if you had a setup for track as you wouldn't have to worry about tape'n wheel weights... but I'd only do it if you had a spare set of rims as try'n to change tires with these beads gets messy... :lol:

Mr Lefty 12-10-2008 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnyce (Post 122340)
im not arguing that they dont work, but ive never had a tire cupping problem that i know of, and ive never lost a wheel weight, so how is it better?

more accurate... ever had a tire balanced that still felt a little off? I have... on my truck when you get to 33" tires they can only be corrected SO much... before you've run out of space for the weights... granted that won't happen on a motorcycle... but the accuracy comment still applies...

smileyman 12-10-2008 01:36 PM

Not the beads I was thinking off :idk:(thank god there are no installation photos of those):whistle:

It is a cool idea but as often as sportbikes go thru a set of tires it does seem like a ton of work for balance. I could see a tourer or cruiser liking the idea though!

Gas Man 12-10-2008 11:06 PM

that's the thing smiley... its still better and CHEAPER to do this on your sportbikes. CHEAPER!

Dnyce 12-10-2008 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 122416)
Its not just cosmetic. By doing this it ensures that your tires are ALWAYS balenced. By doing it the other way even if done correctly is only balanced from that point when its brand new. The beads will adjust every second the entire time they are in there.

Forget the cosmetic, forget the tire life extension... it makes the bike ride better.

For example... my 9R use to shake pretty good at 150mph. But maybe that was just the tires.

Plus these beads are cheaper than balancing. Truely if you wanted to... you could then change your own tires and then throw these in and you're done.

Further, you track guys... no more taping over your stock stick on or crimp on weights. Cause they aren't there!!

did the beads smooth out the 9r? my bike is pretty smooth at 150-loud, but smooth-but they are balanced. im never changing a tire myself, its not cost effective(for me) dont have the tools or the patience. rather spend 25bucks and let some1 else change and balance em-but if it makes the bike ride better, ill try em...do they work on inner tube tires as well? assuming your tires were balanced in the first place, at what speed do u really start to notice the difference the beads make, since u just installed em?

based on ebbs post, i think they'd be great on a motorcycle drag slick-thats the only tire id bother mounting myself i think.

Gas Man 12-10-2008 11:58 PM

Never had them in the 9R

You remove the old weights once these are installed.

You never ever feel any unbalance once installed.

Dnyce 12-11-2008 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 123791)
Never had them in the 9R

You remove the old weights once these are installed.

You never ever feel any unbalance once installed.

inner tubes ok?


u remind me of the oxyclean guy sometimes when u find something u like, so fuck it ill try em when i get my tires in a week or two

Mr Lefty 12-11-2008 01:28 AM

:lol: gas doing informercials

HRCNICK11 12-11-2008 09:21 AM

Only thing I don't really like about them is I already get small balls of rubber inside my tires. I would think these would collect rubber and kind of snowball larger as they did.

If they have any weight to them they might add to the heat build up also some thing you would not want ona a track bike.

Amber Lamps 12-11-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRCNICK11 (Post 124094)
Only thing I don't really like about them is I already get small balls of rubber inside my tires. I would think these would collect rubber and kind of snowball larger as they did.

If they have any weight to them they might add to the heat build up also some thing you would not want ona a track bike.

Well they are ceramic...that might be why.:idk:

Gas Man 12-13-2008 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dnyce (Post 123815)
inner tubes ok?


u remind me of the oxyclean guy sometimes when u find something u like, so fuck it ill try em when i get my tires in a week or two

I'm not sure about tubes.... contact jake at lowdown and ask him... he'll know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebbs15 (Post 123851)
:lol: gas doing informercials

Hey sometimes I find shit that I stand WAY behind!

Amber Lamps 12-14-2008 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 126431)
I'm not sure about tubes.... contact jake at lowdown and ask him... he'll know.



Hey sometimes I find shit that I stand WAY behind!

Yeah,but you don't only stand behind things you also give them the old reach around while you're at it!!!:whistle:

Mr Lefty 12-14-2008 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 126497)
Yeah,but you don't only stand behind things you also give them the old reach around while you're at it!!!:whistle:

:lol:

ceo012384 12-14-2008 12:05 PM

Interesting. The video Tig posted is cool.

However tires these days are almost always very well balanced from the factory, the real imbalance is with the wheel itself. These dynabeads wouldn't correct for that since the wheel is radially inward, right? They correct only for the tire...?

And there has to be some disadvantage... would you put them on a race bike? Why haven't I seen them all over the paddock?

HRCNICK11 12-14-2008 10:05 PM

I agree about the tires except for dunlop street tires talk about some out of round unbalanced crap.

Gas Man 12-14-2008 10:53 PM

Yes reach around...

RACER X 12-18-2008 05:44 PM

local shop that i let work on my bike was putting some of those in, shop owner ONLY did it at customers request. he wasn't to keen on them.

Gas Man 12-18-2008 08:51 PM

Well he sucks then!

unknownroad 12-21-2008 11:32 AM

I wouldn't expect billet barge owners to even notice an off-balance tire. I mean, it only shows up when you *ride* the bike... :whistle:


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