5.0 Mustang GT throws a beating to Camaro and Challenger
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They forgot the which one will give you a bigger penis competition.
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*yawn. Call me when one of them weighs 3k
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Meh. One p.o.s. "muscle car" beat out two others. BFD.
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Its actually kinda old news, Mustang won Car and Driver and Road and Track shoot outs...If they think the 4.6 was hard to beat i said, wait till they get ahold of the 5.0.
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First comparison I've seen with the new 5.0...interesting.
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Still want a Camaro!
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The rear took a little getting used to. I don't like the rear of the Mustang at all...maybe it will grow on me. The SRT looks pretty decent I think. I just can't believe how heavy these cars are getting...not to mention pushing $40k...yikes !! |
Really. You'd think with all the space age plastics, thin sheet metal, and modern design it would weigh less. You have aluminum blocks, magnesium and plastic covers and manifolds, unibody steel and aluminum chassis. Why that heavy? Paul any clue?
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bulkheads to make the body stiffer, tons of airbags, 20" wheels and tires, and loads of electronic gadgets nobody needs
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The GT is a very nice car but for $40K? I'll take a G37 coupe. I know, different style car but that's how I'd roll.
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A G37 isn't worth $40K either. For that kind of money I'd want a BMW. Quote:
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3.7L 4V Ti-VCT V6 Engine and NOT the 5.0 and that's OUT as far as I'm concerned. :lol: |
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That's hilarious.
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A 400+ Hp coupe with good handling that does runs to 60 in 4.4 seconds and the quarter mile in 12.7 sec @ 111.3 while occasionally pulling .97g on the skidpad is definitely a rip off at anything over 30K.
That shit should be priced at 20K. |
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Also, the ultimate reason why you shouldn't pay a lot for this car........The rental lots will be stuffed with 'em |
As an enthusiast I would love to have 412 ponies just cause. A 6 spd to row, some real grippy tires and a V8 snarl.
BUT...Since bike rock and all i need from a sports car is rainy day transportion the V6 engines will do. I still get to row the box, 300 hp is more than my 350Z had or any of my 80s V8 coupes had, and gets better mileage all for 8-10K less and lower insurance. With the money i save i can afford a sport bike andtrack time. What could be better... |
How much lighter is the V6 than the GT? Are both engines aluminum block?
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Cars like this (the ones people want) are where a company like Ford needs to make their money. It also helps to make up for all the Focus shitboxes they practically have to give away to offset the CAFE hit the company takes selling V8 cars that drag their fleet average down. CAFE standards are also the reason why manufacturers make so many of the SUVs and crossovers you seem to dislike. There is a lot of hinky math that goes in to the calculation but the baseline is this year a car needs to get 27.5 mpg combined to be CAFE "neutral" while an SUV/crossover only needs to get 23.5 mpg combined to have the same effect. If the math actually made sense for every current V8 Mustang (19mpg combined) Ford sold they would have to sell 17 Focuses (28mpg combined) to be CAFE neutral. The number is less than that but it is still a lot of Focuses Ford has to move. This is also the reason Dodge screwed around with the dimensions of the Magnum so it was classified as a light truck instead of a passenger car. |
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How about a better strategy, improve the quality & desirability of the Focus, so that it can command a higher price? Quote:
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Until all the assholes start saying how "They would never pay that much for a Ford" The Fiesta is on its way and if they use quality materials on the inside it should be a good seller.... Upcoming Focus looks really good. Fusion is doing well. Then you have the Taurus which is a great car for a good price, you can opt for a wannabe A8 in the SHO if you have the cash and need a big roomy car with balls. Mustang has always done well and now with the 3.7 and the 5.0 what left is there to complain about? Independent rear suspension that most people won't notice is missing? Transit Connect is a godsend to lot of business owners out there. |
The verdict isn't in yet on the new Focus and Fiesta. Haven't seen any road tests on them yet. As for the one that's still on dealer lots, it could be described as crap compared to the Civic or Mazda 3. All of America's small cars have always been that way. Proof of this is dictated by the fact that domestic small cars not only have a lower MSRP, but are also forced to give large cash-backs to convince anyone to buy. Also, how many Civics do you see at rental car lots? None, because Honda can sell as many as it wants to normal consumers.
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ETA: I just saw you used the Civic in your most recent reply. They are the standard and Ford would have to do better for the same price or less to have a hope at winning the consumer's dollars. I don't know if that is possible, and even if it is I don't know if Ford (or any of the "domestics") is capable. |
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V6 model throws a beatin as well
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/07/i...nd-chevy-cama/ |
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Dah plane! Dah plane!
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Screamers are more fun!
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Seemed designed for a short miserable life. As for running out of breath @4K, my Yoter 2.4 does that. From 4-redline, it's just noise. Shakey too but Toyota saw fit to install uber engine mounts and insulation to hide it. |
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Bargain. |
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Gonna compare a base model sports car to a top of the line pony car? I would guess that with the number of Camaro SS', SRT8 chargers and Mustang GTs compared to vettes I see, they are rarely cross shopped. |
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The only reason Dodge was able to get away with such a high price was because of the built-up expectation associated with bringing back the Challenger name. |
[QUOTE=Dave;359565]a 4k car in the ninties on the skid sounds hokey to me. Whats the section on those tires?[/QUOTE
The Mustang is 'only' about 3400 lbs and comes with optional 18 in Pirelli P zeros, dunno the profile... |
Eagle F1 SuperCar G:2s in sizes P265/40ZR19 and P285/35ZR20.
From one source for the 2011 GT Coupe. 235/50-18 and 245/45-19 From another source. |
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That's the magazine test result for the 2011 V6. Could do what someone else mentioned and steal a 2010 GT or get about equivalent performance with the 11 V6. I can deal with, ahem, the 'low spec' performance to save money. If I wanna go FAST, I have 2 bikes.
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either way, I doubt these cars will be cross shopped, since one is a 4 seater family car with decent utility and performance, and one is a 2 seat sports car. I do agree the SRT8(and the GT500 for that matter) is overpriced, but the Mustang is still a bargain, in v8 or v6 guise. Personally, I want a 2010, and a Kenne Bell supercharger. 400+rwhp for less than the new 5.0. |
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Mercede (base model of any class) vs AMG models. BMW 330 vs BMW M3 Mitsubishi Lancer vs EVO Subbie Imprezza vs Imprezza STI |
Maybe, but as far as I know those cars have more mods than the SRT8 does.
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wheels, tires, brakes, suspension. :lol: |
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Except those other cars have much different bodywork, seats, instruments, etc
I'm sorry but go to their website and count all the differences, there isn't as much diff. between a challenger and srt8 versus a lancer and an evo |
Goddamn it this thread is about Mustangs!! It's like we're arguing the diff between whole milk, 2 pct, and skim. Get with the now!
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It's not just styling. I have sat in all three. The Dodge is a 2 door sedan, the Camaro is a pony car caricature, the Mustang is a pony car. Other than the back seats, vestigial as they are, it feels like my old 350 Z. A real sporting car.
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http://www.mustangrtr.com/
http://www.mustangrtr.com/rtr-c/ If you wanna blow a wallet full on a pony car...go big. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...g?t=1270861579 |
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its def a memorable line :lol:
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The question is. Will it blow you? |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN1THL-QcVo |
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If your car is stock I call BS. Maybe you're talking about older Vettes or a regular Neon with an SRT hood and wing ? :lol: Don't get me wrong...I like the Maxima...great car but my little SRT will walk it from ANY speed and well my Vette isn't stock so they would probably arrest me for bullying if I sic'd it on the Maxima so we won't even go in to that. Your Maxima...again...if stock...will not pull a C5 or C6 base Vette. You only have 222 flywheel HP stock. My SRT put that down at the wheels...stock. I'm just going by what you said...from a roll. Both of my cars are stronger from a roll than they are from a dig...due to wheelspin...a Maxima from 2000 in stock form wouldn't have a chance...plain and simple. :idk: |
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You may be arrested for bullying too. :lol: :lol: |
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Of course for all I know the Maxima has pulled one of them from a roll too. :lol: :lol: |
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Take it to the drag strip. I bet you would have a hard time getting a 14.9 The only way your car would beat any of those cars, is if you have an auto trans that kicks down, and they stay in O/D.(BTW, CTSs are balls slow, unless they are a V model) It kind of reminds me of all the guys on 600s who think they can keep up to the bus, but I rarely go over 6000rpm on the street. :wtfru: |
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When the guy found out it was a Honda...I might as well have been a communist. :lol: He owned a Monte Carlo...yep been in the coal mine awhile have we ? :lol: |
lmao. When i was big into turbo daytonas they used to get it confused and try to say it was a mitsubishi. Id always pop the hood and tell em id give them 50 bucks if they could find the three diamonds anywhere on it
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And then you'd get the "why didn't you buy a real car (Mustang/Camaro) instead of that 4-cylinder shit"
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