POTM's Future Poll
 

POTM is up for a revamp. Participation sucks. 3 Options.

Keep it as it
Change it
Kill it


If you vote change plz explain how/what you would change.


This is your chance. Fuckerz.


:ws:

I wonder if participation just happens to be low due to the recent cold snap. Granted, you would think people in the southern states would step up during the winter, but maybe people are getting bored with it.

I liked the idea you had set up where someone would post a specific idea (ie, pic of your bike in front of a waterfall), then whoever was first to get that pic would come up with something else. Unfortunately, that failed miserably. The "themed" pic of the month was okay, but unfortunately, some of us aren't very creative, so that also failed.

Even though both of those failed, I still have to wonder if some combination of the two could work for POTM. For example, the rules could be:

Original thread starter comes up with a theme (ie. pic of your bike in front of a waterfall)
First person to post said pic comes up with a new theme, however, people are still allowed to post pics of the original theme, or ANY theme posted in the thread by the first person to meet the previous theme.
At the end of the month, all the pics in the thread are voted on for pic of the month. Each thread runs from the first day of the month, through the last day of the month. Voting occurs during the first 5 days of the following month.
Anyone can start the new picture thread on the first day of the new month.

Also, while I understand the reasoning behind pics having to be taken that month, maybe allow pics taken any time during the prior 6 months. That would help keep pics flowing throughout the winter months.

On top of that, maybe have a "pic of the year" from all of the previous years' winners.

i know for me the cold snap killed my ambitions to ride

i look forward to PoTM and cant wait to see the applicants, i rode almost nill last year and thus had that many pics to show for it

this year i am riding more and def getting more pics

Get rid of the taken during that month rule, I know most people here have great photos that they have built up, why not share those?

i disagree with the wej

it makes it more relative to have them taken during that month, gives everyone a fair chance and keeps it fun

Participation is the problem. There's very little. Even in the warmer months.

Yea it's a popularity contest and not a pic contest anyway. No one cares about the pics content, the scene, etc. This month someone will probably win simply because they are popular with a portion of the forum or because they are wearing a revealing outfit and has bolt on tits. There's absolutely nothing "artistic" or interesting about the shot what so ever.:idk: On the other hand, if you still want to cater to the 5 or 6 members that regularly submit to it and the 20 or so members that might vote, go for it. It's your time after all.:lol:

I think its 50/50...Sometimes is bc of a certain memeber who posts...othertimes a good picture does win.

But i look at it from the composition of it the quality and the overall content.

But I think you should keep it around...Maybe have more incentive to do it though...Maybe Trip could send the winner a decal of there choice, I dunno just a thought. I know we arent a huge forum and all but on a car forum im on stuff like that gets rewarded for the pictures.

how bout ya'll send me money and then we can talk about it. I don't ask for donations, I am fine with what I pay to keep this place running, but since we have few sponsors, I can't do everything.

I think the voting should be anominous, don't say who took the picture or who submit it. I know we may figure it out, but it might make it closer

:dvrofl::dvrofl:

I take a lot of pics but I very rarely take pics of my bike or bikes in general.

I figure it will pick back up in the summer. :shrug:

Ha half the people that want to keep it are the regular posters to it....and one of the votes to trash it belongs to the guy that started it and has to do all of the work!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Marko, for real, if they want to have a "pic of the month", one of them can start it, make it a poll on the specified date and the winner starts the next thread/poll. There's really no need for moderation imho.

I like where your head is at.

I really don't know how you've lasted this long.:lol:

I think Marko or someone should just pick the coolest out of the submissiones every month, its usually obvious anyway, screw the votes.

just randomly pick pictures of particle's SV. close enough to reality anyway :lol

seriously though. does it have to be an of the month thing? it'd be cool if we could completely automate the process. say trip works out some way to add an uploader that will only take pictures hosted by say photobucket (keeps the jokesters who'd put porn in there under control) and just have it bump the latest pic all the time, or some kind of shuffle for all monthly pictures

I've only won twice, sheesh :lol:

agreed

I am done with the PotM, if Marko gets bored with it someone new will have to step up or it will fade away.

I have a feeling it's fading away...

I have a feeling your right.

Altho the idea to let each individual interested that month deal with it seems like a solid plan.

Yeah,

If other individuals are interested in reviving or redoing it to make it more interesting and can devote the time needed to do this every month. Send me a PM.

It's not really that much work but it's enough to be a pain month after month. Especially when submissions are nearly zero.

Let's have a moderated gallery that people can upload pictures into... anyone can access the pictures and we can all rate them. Anything with 3 or more votes and a rating of 4 stars or more gets automatically cycled onto the front page. Moderation will eliminate pr0n and shit, and since it's not a contest (ie: no real winners), no popularity contests. Also, maybe if a pic gets too many 1 or 2 star rankings, it's automatically deleted from the mix. Only rule is, it's gotta be MC related. If nobody uses it, there will be one static pic on the front. If everyone uses it, we will have a randomly generated picture every time we log in.

Not sure if that's even possible, but I think it satisfies the want of a front page pic and frees up Marko's time. Hell, if he wants to take a week off, all the pics in queue just sit and wait. Fuck 'em.

So basically it all comes back to me to design it and get the moderation set up. Fuck you guys. LOL

You forget, I don't care if it goes away. LOL

I'm in management... I have no problem assigning more work.

I'm the owner, I have no problem firing middle managers.

More or less what I had in mind :lol

I say how about submissions go to marko via PM... then he puts out the poll with no screen names attached to eliminate the "popularity contest"


also if you allow Any time pictures to be posted, yes you'll have a lot from a year ago... but eventually they'll run out... and new stuff will have to be taken...

I think if we made this into a slide show for the front page like "ADVrider" it may invite more participation. :2cents:

HI think some of you are missing the part that Marko/Trip doesn't want to Fuck with this anymore. Why don't you do it? In fact, I nominate Ebb to be in charge of potm.

cause I'm not on the forum enough... the only reason you've really seen me the last month is i'm on Con leave from my stroke... before that I didn't check in all that much...

well be part of the forum more, slacker

Yea run POTM punk ass!:pebbs:

The bike requirement makes most of the entries pretty contrived. I know very few people, myself included, that take pictures of their bike regularly. I bet if the poll was based on ANY picture, you'd see more participation and some amazing shots. Probably a few with bikes in them too.

I agree with Faster,

Open it up to Anything...Not just bikes, granted its a Bike forum but we all like awesome shots of whatever dont we?

I'll gladly take over POTM...I'd hate to see it die.

I second Sixxer as the Grand Poobah of POTM! Long may he reign!!!:bowtome:

Lol, Thanks Tig.

I frequent here enough to hold down POTM...lol

I honestly think we would get more participation if people were reminded about it. I rarely think about it because it's kind of off the beaten path in the 'Current Info' section of the forum. I think it should be stickied somewhere with more traffic, or even in multiple places. Just a suggestion.

If there isn't enough participation, then kill it, but what about making it a "pic of the season"? That might raise the bar on quality and creativeness, while giving people more time to find something that they're happy to post.

not a bad idea... maybe even have a couple catagories so that everyone has a chance...

like say Best Track day photo, Best two up photo, Best WTF photo, Best holiday photo, Best off road photo, Best where am I photo (touring), Best Rally photo, ect...

I really like that idea, make it more oriented to a topic than just motorcyclin.

That sounds good. There are a lot of different things that are motorcycle related, that could be represented. Two or 3 categories per season might give some incentive to the people who don't ordinarily post. Also putting something in Off Topic, to remind people to vote, wouldn't be a bad idea.

exactly... and given the randomness of our motorcycling interests, I think it'll invite more interest

yeah... or possibly put in a pop up until they view the thread (if that's possible) like the PM pop up...

ok, officially voted change it

Removing the "must have a motorcycle in it" requirement and changing it to "must somehow be motorcycle related" might help too. That would cover your comment about a "best road photo." There are a lot of creative ways that you can shoot a road, and there's nothing wrong with a picture of nothing more than very twisty pavement.

Does it have must have a motorcycle? I always thought it was motorcycle related.

None of that is excluded now...if I understand your idea correctly.

You're right. It's always been motorcycle related, not strictly motorcycle. Someone won once with a baby in a helmet didn't they?

Some previous threads stated that a motorcycle had to be in the shot. Later ones said something like, "You know the rules." As long as rules are clearly stated, and a little broader than that, there shouldn't be an issue.

YUP... two of my favorites I've taken are just roads (well ones a track)

http://ebbs15.com/Motorcycles/Twowhe...7_VL956-XL.jpg

http://ebbs15.com/Motorcycles/Indy-0...0_PVZah-XL.jpg

maybe in every submittal thread we have the rules posted in big letters... after all it's not always the veterans that are submitting pics

my idea is to have a once a year vote on a winner from each category... not monthly...

and I too thought it had to have a motorcycle in it.

Go back over the last year and show me it's not the same 3 or 4 or 5 people submitting. And then tell me there's someone on this forum that doesn't know the rules.

I don't buy it. It's the same folks every time. This board isn't that big.

I'm saying in the future... and there were a couple that I hadn't seen much of.. I'm not attacking your running of the contest at all... just trying to make it... Army proof

Same here:

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/mult...2/Q5244371.jpg

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/mult...mall09_4mp.jpg

No I understand.

And fellas...one of each of your photos is a race track. Thats absolutely MC related. The road...related in a loose interpretation of the rules...but when has anything on this board every been followed to the letter?

When it could get kicked for not being applicable...? :lol:

And that's Four Mile Post, outside Huntsville, AL. Might as well be a track :lol:

I could have sworn that I read that a motorcycle had to be in the shot... if not my mistake...

but apparently I'm not the only one who thought that way too.

Fair enough. Maybe it wasn't clear. But I'm generally certain that when I typed the rules it said...had to have a motorcycle in it or be motorcycle related.

Here ya go...directly from Feb. 2011 thread:

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=17797

ok.. my bad

From Feb 2010:

And remember, the rules are simple:

1.) Picture must have motorcycle(s) in it
2.) Picture must be taken during the month of January 2010

;)

Did I make that thread?

Didn't say that you did.

Hey, I didn't either, yey! It was suppose to be moto related.

Every thread I have made since August says "motorcycle related". So you fuckers can't read the rules. Did I make some that said "must have motorcycle"? Yes. But not since July 2010.

regardless... lets just make it known from here on out... so there is no confusion for anyone submitting

Agreed. Explicitly stated is best.

I'm making it known that you are now in charge of POTM...other wise it dies with the winner of the current POLE.

Considering the confusion, we need to put the rules in every entry thread. Just set a standard set of rules we can copy and paste in.

You guys are mental.

lol. I think Mark has gotten to the point I was at when I quit doing it too.

fine

I have.

Fuck yo rules! I will continue to post mediocre pictures until I figure out how to use a camera well.

So the only things left to determine are time frame and categories? How about:

- Best bike shot (static)
- Best action shot (dynamic; road, track, etc.)
- Best motorcycle related (roads, signs, tracks and landscapes...)

...?

there is no rule about the perceived quality of photos... please post away

:lol: Never has been a rule about that.

Hell, sometimes the best shots are the worst shots :lol:

I like those...
but I'd like to see Best Road shot separated as it's own category and to separate road from offroad

how about adding, best rally shot (to motivate people to show and take photos) Best travel picture, and Best holiday (any) photo (must be motorcycle related)

Whats the motivation to post if these are only going to be voted on 1 time per year?

Just playing devils advocate here. If only half a dozen folks participate now why would more play along if the voting is reduced to once/year? I see ppl forgetting about it or not caring all together.

I think that ride and holiday might as well be the same category. A holiday is just an EXTENDED ride ;)

So:

- Best bike shot (static)
- Best action shot (dynamic; road, track, etc.)
- Best rally shot
- Best ride/holiday shot
- Best road shot

With a collection like that,there should be something that everyone could post in. Might even be multiples that people would want to post to, especially if it's perhaps over the course of March through October, or something like that.

Men, I applaud the ideas you're throwing out. But in my mind you're not doing anything different than we currently do. There's nothing to say any of this couldn't have been submitted previously.

True. but as we're having very little participation in the monthly... maybe quarterly , then those 4 would compete for the annual :idk:


no not holiday as in vacation... I mean holiday like Christmas/ Halloween/ thanksgiving/ Independence day/ ect

yeah I hear ya... but having multiple winners (one in each category) is a change, hopefully one that will invite more participation.



one more idea is to offer a "reward" for the annual winners. we'd need to talk trip into making annual "memberships" to fund this... but something like a $25 gift certificate could entice some submittal

I honestly hope it works.

haha this is a clusterfuck... can't even do pics w/o drama.... Kill it!

what the fuck are you talking about? there isn't any drama... it's just brain storming and idea sharing

I am thoroughly confused about the plan here, but I will say that I forget about it since it's not in Off Topic and get confused about where the poll is vs. the thread to contribute vs. the winner thread. They are all in different areas.

All pictures from now on must include Tater's Cheating Skank Whore of a Wife?

:falco1:snort:bw:

Oh. Duh. OK.

what do ya'll think about this?

Looks good to me. I think that some people's comments about somehow linking to Off Topic are a good idea too.

slightly confusing

You can create a redirect in OT

how so? not attacking just wanna know how I can make it clearer

If you're confused about the time periods for the competitions, just consider them to be Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter ;)