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Quick281 04-08-2008 02:16 AM

Stands......What and Why?
 
Looking around on motorcycle superstore, I was thinking about ordering a Vortex rear stand for my bike. Figure it would make servicing a lot easier and I can order the front stand down the road when I decide I need it.

How do I know if this will fit and do I need anything else for this to work?

I have seen "spools" advertised before but I never really stopped to identify their purpose. Based of very little information I got the impression that they were used on bike, so that the stands have something from which they can pick up the bike.

Is this even close to right or am I up to squidlyness again?

As for the stands? Anything else I need to know?

Thanks!

Mr Lefty 04-08-2008 02:39 AM

yes that's it... it's what most rear stands "lock" into... I say lock... but really they aren't fully secured... the spool just sits in a u shaped cradle on the stand.

they are VERY nice when working on your bike... and if you store your bike for any period of time... get a front stand too... to keep the tires off the ground and avoid flat spotting them... (seeing as your in GA... you probably ride year around... fuck stick)

PIT BULL STANDS FTW!

most stands are decent... but Pitbull are widely considered the best. (I don't have pitbulls but will eventually)

ceo012384 04-08-2008 03:04 AM

Buy t-rex stands. I got both front with triple tree attachment and rear stand and rear spools shipped for the price of one pitbull stand. High quality, good price. No reason to buy anything for more or less money.

I don't have any good pics right now. You can see them in these two pics:

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...2211Medium.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...02032Large.jpg

Quick281 04-08-2008 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 29205)
(seeing as your in GA... you probably ride year around... fuck stick)

Thats not true. I might avoid riding on cold days, you know when temperatures drop bellow 80 degrees. :whistle:

Thanks for the replies, will I need to order spools for the front as well?

Do certain spools go with certain stands or am I likely to be ok?

Also, CEO where did you order your stands from?

ceo012384 04-08-2008 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281 (Post 29229)
Thats not true. I might avoid riding on cold days, you know when temperatures drop bellow 80 degrees. :whistle:

Thanks for the replies, will I need to order spools for the front as well?

Do certain spools go with certain stands or am I likely to be ok?

You don't need spools in the front.

There are spools that are only meant as a means to use the stand with, and there are spools that stick out a bit more that are intended to function as sliders a little bit. Your choice.

As for fitment, you just need to figure out what thread the holes tapped in your swingarm are, and buy those spools.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281 (Post 29229)
Also, CEO where did you order your stands from?

I responded before you edited... here ya go:

http://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?...Fcategory%3D46

Quick281 04-08-2008 03:24 AM

Excellent thanks for the quick reply. I would have noted my edit except I made a 2nd post. This whole anti-postwhore system confused the hell out of me till I figured out my posts were being combined.

ceo012384 04-08-2008 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281 (Post 29236)
Excellent thanks for the quick reply. I would have noted my edit except I made a 2nd post. This whole anti-postwhore system confused the hell out of me till I figured out my posts were being combined.

It's alright dude :dthumb:

It's a fix for VABarber... he can't multiquote from his computer in Iraq so it automatically combines subsequent posts. :cheers:

Quick281 04-08-2008 03:27 AM

Ahhh, now it makes a bit more sense.

Looks like its gonna be 8mm spools and a front and rear stand for me.

Thanks for that link, what a great price too. Ebbs, you looked into these?

Mr Lefty 04-08-2008 03:47 AM

naw not yet... I've got a set of stands at the moment so unless they're free... my money can be better spent elsewhere what with my trip coming up and my limited income :lol:


speaking of which CEO you get the sand out and decide to come down yet?

WARputer 04-08-2008 04:32 AM

I have a pit bull rear stand .....as CEO said, good stuff but expensive and you can find much better deals.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ing07015-2.jpg

Becca_007 04-08-2008 06:40 AM

I have the t-rex stands too (with triple). They work great, don't seem flimsy, and you can't beat the price.

marko138 04-08-2008 09:26 AM

If you want top notch quality that will last a lifetime...buy Pitbull.

That being said...I have a Vortex rear stand. Good quality. Not Pitbull but good.

Phenix_Rider 04-08-2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceo012384 (Post 29222)
Buy t-rex stands. I got both front with triple tree attachment and rear stand and rear spools shipped for the price of one pitbull stand. High quality, good price. No reason to buy anything for more or less money.

Buy T-Rex. They're good stuff. My bike sat on them all winter and is on them right now. Can't beat the price.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...75-R1-23-1.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...75-R1-21-3.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...75-R1-20-4.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 29311)
If you want top notch quality that will last a lifetime...buy Pitbull.

...And spend 3X as much.

marko138 04-08-2008 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 29319)
...And spend 3X as much.

Owning a motorcycle isn't cheap, guy.

fpzx10 04-08-2008 10:19 AM

Pitbull FTMFW!!!!!

They are made about 70 miles from me. I got a great deal from www.sportbiketrackgear.com

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/100_1967.jpg

z06boy 04-08-2008 10:24 AM

I have a Vortex and a Pitbull rearstand. Both are good. To be honest...I actually like the Vortex one better. I paid $100 for the Vortex new and $100 for the Pitbull used. :idk:

I've been thinking of selling one or the other and using the $$ to buy a front stand.

Quick281 04-08-2008 03:06 PM

Thanks for everyone's replies. I think I will probably go with T rex. From the pictures they seem of good quality, and both users on this forum are happy with them.

Cutty72 04-08-2008 03:33 PM

I have a T-rex set for the SV...
Have to invest in another set for the 1125 now... not sure what i'm going to go with. Gotta check to be sure the swingarm will be solid enough on the 1125, as there are no spools for that.

Phenix_Rider 04-08-2008 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 29584)
I have a T-rex set for the SV...
Have to invest in another set for the 1125 now... not sure what i'm going to go with. Gotta check to be sure the swingarm will be solid enough on the 1125, as there are no spools for that.

That's one thing I don't like about the 1125R. The swingarm looks way too lightweight. Let us know how that goes!

Cutty72 04-08-2008 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 29585)
That's one thing I don't like about the 1125R. The swingarm looks way too lightweight. Let us know how that goes!

oh the swing arm is heavy enough... just no mounts for spools, so you have to use the "standard" style stand.

Gotta try my current T-rex to be sure I'm ok with how it all works.

Phenix_Rider 04-08-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 29586)
oh the swing arm is heavy enough... just no mounts for spools, so you have to use the "standard" style stand.

Gotta try my current T-rex to be sure I'm ok with how it all works.

"standard" stands would freak me out. How do they not slide?

Cutty72 04-08-2008 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 29587)
"standard stands would freak me out. How do they not slide?

that's what i gotta find out before i buy new stands...
may have to fab up some type of spool...

dubbs 04-08-2008 03:45 PM

I got handy stands off of harborfreight.com

Work well for 90$ shipped.

marko138 04-08-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 29586)
oh the swing arm is heavy enough... just no mounts for spools, so you have to use the "standard" style stand.

Gotta try my current T-rex to be sure I'm ok with how it all works.

Axle slider/spools. There's a 1125 on eBay with that setup right now. He's got it on stands.

Cutty72 04-08-2008 04:16 PM

hmm, haven't seen 'em yet... i'll go check that out.

Cutty72 04-08-2008 04:36 PM

Found 'em...
http://www.darkhorsemoto.com/
$82 plus shipping for a pair seems kinda steep though...
Guess they say, ya gotta pay to play.

marko138 04-08-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 29612)
Found 'em...
http://www.darkhorsemoto.com/
$82 plus shipping for a pair seems kinda steep though...
Guess they say, ya gotta pay to play.

They do say that.

Dnyce 04-08-2008 05:32 PM

any1 use the standard rear stand successfully? which 1? i was looking into getting a rear stand but i have no spools. and im not drilling or welding on my swingarm.

Gas Man 04-08-2008 08:21 PM

Had some 3 piece LP stands... they did the job but sucked!!
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ingTime002.jpg

Pit Bulls or GO HOME
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ngTime005a.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ingTime006.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ingTime007.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ogether004.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ingTime022.jpg

dubbs 04-08-2008 08:27 PM

More like.. Pit Bull, or pay a resonable price!

Quick281 04-08-2008 10:17 PM

Thanks for the pictures Gas Man! I was wondering how the triple tree mount worked.

Despite the Pit Bull fans, I am going to take the cheaper route for once with the T-rex set. I will be sure to share my opinion on them, but I have confidence in the other forum member's opinions for now. :rockout:

t-homo 04-09-2008 03:12 AM

Damn G-man, I don't know if I've ever seen pics of the 9r. Looked damn nice. You could had it back for less than you spent on mods this winter.

Mr Lefty 04-09-2008 03:50 AM

he went to the big dog cause he was getting a little insane with the crap he pulled on the 9... and the speeds :lol:


though I'm think'n he'd still would have been better off $ wise by stay'n with the 9... even if he got like 10 wreckless driving tickets it'd still be under 50k :lol:

marko138 04-09-2008 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnyce (Post 29641)
any1 use the standard rear stand successfully? which 1? i was looking into getting a rear stand but i have no spools. and im not drilling or welding on my swingarm.

Yeah I have. Both on my bike and my buddies. I have spools too. But I've used it both ways. No slipping whatsoever.

z06boy 04-09-2008 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281 (Post 29779)
Thanks for the pictures Gas Man! I was wondering how the triple tree mount worked.

Same here...I have two rear stands and no front and wondered the same thing...thanks for posting. :dthumb:

Amber Lamps 04-09-2008 10:06 AM

Run a threaded rod from Lowes thru your axle,use your old spools and a couple nuts. Just take it off when you're not using it. In fact get some wingnuts and it'll be easy. Heck,just run the rod out the ends and forget the spools. That way you can use whatever size rod your axle hole will bear for peace of mind.

Cutty72 04-09-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 29705)
Had some 3 piece LP stands... they did the job but sucked!!
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...ingTime002.jpg

What was so bad about them???

t-homo 04-09-2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 29841)
he went to the big dog cause he was getting a little insane with the crap he pulled on the 9... and the speeds :lol:


though I'm think'n he'd still would have been better off $ wise by stay'n with the 9... even if he got like 10 wreckless driving tickets it'd still be under 50k :lol:

i remember him saying that. gorgeous bike though.

Amber Lamps 04-09-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 29918)
What was so bad about them???

I used to have the LP stands too. They are just flimsy and not very well made. Although,I think LP uses a better supplier now. BTW I have Suzuki front and rear stands if anyone wants them,I went and bought Vortex stands.

Gas Man 04-09-2008 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281 (Post 29779)
Thanks for the pictures Gas Man! I was wondering how the triple tree mount worked.

Despite the Pit Bull fans, I am going to take the cheaper route for once with the T-rex set. I will be sure to share my opinion on them, but I have confidence in the other forum member's opinions for now. :rockout:

No problem... I still try to stay in touch with the sportbikes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 29835)
Damn G-man, I don't know if I've ever seen pics of the 9r. Looked damn nice. You could had it back for less than you spent on mods this winter.

Thanks and you're probably 200% correct!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 29841)
he went to the big dog cause he was getting a little insane with the crap he pulled on the 9... and the speeds :lol:


though I'm think'n he'd still would have been better off $ wise by stay'n with the 9... even if he got like 10 wreckless driving tickets it'd still be under 50k :lol:

You as well are correct!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 29918)
What was so bad about them???

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 29937)
I used to have the LP stands too. They are just flimsy and not very well made. Although,I think LP uses a better supplier now. BTW I have Suzuki front and rear stands if anyone wants them,I went and bought Vortex stands.

Just like Tigger said... they were flimsy, they rusted, the knobs that kept them together broke off. aka They sucked!

Quick281 04-09-2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 29937)
I used to have the LP stands too. They are just flimsy and not very well made. Although,I think LP uses a better supplier now. BTW I have Suzuki front and rear stands if anyone wants them,I went and bought Vortex stands.

Man I wish you had brought that up about 12 hours ago. :lol:

marko138 04-10-2008 08:32 AM

Tigger...how sturdy is the front stand...fork or triple lift...and how much do you want?

Amber Lamps 04-10-2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 30239)
Tigger...how sturdy is the front stand...fork or triple lift...and how much do you want?

fork style,the "pivoting pin type" it works good and is reasonably stable. I just wanted a triple tree stand. $50 plus shipping sounds fair,I think. I'd sell front and rear for oh $80 plus just to get rid of them.....:whistle:

marko138 04-10-2008 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 30297)
fork style,the "pivoting pin type" it works good and is reasonably stable. I just wanted a triple tree stand. $50 plus shipping sounds fair,I think. I'd sell front and rear for oh $80 plus just to get rid of them.....:whistle:

Hmmm...thats a solid deal. Although I'd really like the triple style. I might be interested in the front. Give me a day or so to ponder.

Amber Lamps 04-10-2008 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 30367)
Hmmm...thats a solid deal. Although I'd really like the triple style. I might be interested in the front. Give me a day or so to ponder.

let me know,bro no rush.

NONE_too_SOFT 04-10-2008 07:15 PM

my front fork lift is friggin solid. with my bike on both stands, the thing is like a fuckin rock. wont even budge.

ceo012384 04-11-2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 29246)
naw not yet... I've got a set of stands at the moment so unless they're free... my money can be better spent elsewhere what with my trip coming up and my limited income :lol:


speaking of which CEO you get the sand out and decide to come down yet?

Due to a few recent developments, I REALLY want to. I'm going to try really fucking hard to make it to the rally. Is it too late for me to decide? When is the absolute last date that I could decide by and still get a room at the hotel where you are all staying?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281 (Post 29779)
Despite the Pit Bull fans, I am going to take the cheaper route for once with the T-rex set. I will be sure to share my opinion on them, but I have confidence in the other forum member's opinions for now. :rockout:

I guarantee you won't be disappointed. And if you are, oh well, not my problem :lol:

Trip 04-11-2008 12:11 AM

imed you about the rally, ceo.

Quick281 04-12-2008 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceo012384 (Post 30641)
Is it too late for me to decide?

I guarantee you won't be disappointed. And if you are, oh well, not my problem :lol:


What the fuck ever, they told me that CEO dude would reimburse me but I could keep the stands.

I am also thinking about making the rally if I was invited?

Mr Lefty 04-12-2008 01:30 AM

everyones invited...

Cutty72 04-12-2008 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 31023)
everyones invited...

Except ebbs.

Quick281 04-12-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 31077)
Except ebbs.

Owned.

Dnyce 04-13-2008 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 29914)
Run a threaded rod from Lowes thru your axle,use your old spools and a couple nuts. Just take it off when you're not using it. In fact get some wingnuts and it'll be easy. Heck,just run the rod out the ends and forget the spools. That way you can use whatever size rod your axle hole will bear for peace of mind.

that wont work 4me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 29937)
I used to have the LP stands too. They are just flimsy and not very well made. Although,I think LP uses a better supplier now. BTW I have Suzuki front and rear stands if anyone wants them,I went and bought Vortex stands.


how much for the rear? any pics/measurements?

Quick281 04-27-2008 02:03 AM

Thought I would go ahead and conclude this thread.

Went with T-Rex and I couldn't be happier. Much better bang for the buck then the Pit Bull stands which I was able to see in person at a local shop. Certainly not a knock on the quality of Pit Bull, but rather the price!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../Random023.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../Random024.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../Random032.jpg

Don't have a much better picture of them but I couldn't be happier with the purchase. Went with what CEO recommended and I got everything plus the required spools for the price of one Pit Bull stand. Tom at T-Rex was also very prompt in answering any of my questions.

I will recommend these to anyone that ever asks. :rockwoot:

Mr Lefty 04-27-2008 02:10 AM

Nice!

Mudpuppy 04-27-2008 02:19 AM

one thing to remember:

NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER put your bike on a rear stand in complete pitch black at 11pm at night after getting up at 3am to do a track day on a 95 degree day, getting stuck in traffic for 4 hours on the way home and being so dead tired you are going to fall over anytime soon..

bad things happen..

like bending up your rear stand and dropping your bike breaking the new mirror you just bought.. doh!

then you spend the next day sledgehammering the rear stand until it fits the bike again..

WARputer 04-27-2008 04:46 AM

Looks great Quick !

Phenix_Rider 04-27-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281 (Post 36607)
Thought I would go ahead and conclude this thread.

Went with T-Rex and I couldn't be happier. Much better bang for the buck then the Pit Bull stands which I was able to see in person at a local shop. Certainly not a knock on the quality of Pit Bull, but rather the price!


Don't have a much better picture of them but I couldn't be happier with the purchase. Went with what CEO recommended and I got everything plus the required spools for the price of one Pit Bull stand. Tom at T-Rex was also very prompt in answering any of my questions.

I will recommend these to anyone that ever asks. :rockwoot:

Told you so:dthumb:

Quick281 04-27-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudpuppy (Post 36619)
one thing to remember:

NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER put your bike on a rear stand in complete pitch black at 11pm at night after getting up at 3am to do a track day on a 95 degree day, getting stuck in traffic for 4 hours on the way home and being so dead tired you are going to fall over anytime soon..

bad things happen..

like bending up your rear stand and dropping your bike breaking the new mirror you just bought.. doh!

then you spend the next day sledgehammering the rear stand until it fits the bike again..

10-4 on that. When all of those planets align I will be sure to avoid the bike.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WARputer (Post 36636)
Looks great Quick !

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 36679)
Told you so:dthumb:

Yes indeed, I believe it was you CEO.

ceo012384 05-02-2008 03:22 PM

Awesome man. Glad you like the stands. They're the shizzle fo sho.


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