Is Casey Stoner one of the best riders ever?
I took most of the info from the great article below...I also used MotoGP.com for stats reference...
CLICK HERE FOR ARTICLE So let's talk facts... --At age 25, he's already a premier class MotoGP champion --he already has more premier class victories than legends Kenny Roberts, Barry Sheene, Freddie Spencer, Wayne Gardner, Wayne Rainey, and Kevin Schwantz --he's only 4 victories shy of being even with 4 time GP champion Eddie Lawson --the only other riders with more premier class victories are Lawson, Hailwood, Doohan, Agostini, and Rossi --he has 27 premier class victories - Pedrosa and Lorenzo have 28 COMBINED --he's s scored more victories during his time in MotoGP than Rossi has over that same span (27 to 26), while also notching up seven more pole positions than his nemesis (26 to 19) --when he wins, it's typically by an extremely large margin So, regardless of the abrasive persona, the public fights with Rossi, the constant claims of whining, the "it's the bike, not the rider" fodder, and other rumblings, you can't deny his numbers...The boy can ride, and is headed towards being one of the greatest riders the sport has ever seen... |
I think he has taken a ton of heat because when he is not running away with it, he has been pushed easily to making mistakes. Laguna Seca comes to mind.
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As a rider I'd say yes, as a finisher/racer he has to learn to modulate a bit more....
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Other than Rossi, who has the Duc hampering this season, Stoner is the only rider out there that makes me feel like he is in another league. Pedobear and Whoregay have just never given me that feeling that there is just something special about the rider. I think Rossi is showing what Stoner had to deal with for all those years. Who knows where he would be had he not had to fight the inadequacies of the Duc and its front end. How many races did he have sizeable leads only to pitch it into the rocks when the front went. Havn't seen that front move this whole season on the Honda.... well other than when Rossi went flying underneath of him. Doh :lol:
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Rider? Sure. Put him in the front, and he goes like stink, no doubt about it.
Racer? Not so much. I think the reason he's so fast at the front, is because he's scared to death of those icky people in the leather suits that are chasing him. Additionally and plus, the stats comparing him to Roberts, Hailwood, Agostini, et al, fail to factor in the machinery used at the time. Stoner would curl up die of mysterious stomach cramps, if he had to compete on the beasties those guys raced on. I'll give credit where it's due, but Casey is not on the same par as the "Great Ones". He's a runner, not a fighter. JC |
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Baseball, aside from being one of the most useless games in the world, is also one of the least changed since it's unfortunate invention. Bats are still made of wood, gloves of leather, and grass is still grass. The big, heavy, (by today's standards) snarly two strokes, that handled like raped wolverines, would have killed Stoner in the pits, just by looking at him in a cross manner. JC |
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You can only race within the rules and technology that exists during your time and the idea is to be the best of whatever era to which you belong...And if that's the traction control era, then so be it -- but ultimately, that's the goal for Stoner, Rossi, and the rest... |
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