5th gen "coil on plug" setup project
 

It never stops, does it? Moving onto my next project. Since I don't feel like modifying the 6th gen airbox, I'm just going to go this route.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKDeS2ZBm0s

It's apparent this guy is pretty clueless about the electronic ignition system.

What is this clown exactly trying to accomplish? He doesn't like the coils that are located under the fuel tank that you can't see anyway?

Uh..yeah..the three wires are for the hall effect driver that operates the primary coil control. The third wire is for the transistor low side current path.

Clown...

Cliff Notes:

"I don't know jack shit about how any of this works, but it should be fine." :lol:

JC

If you would have watched the vid youd know why Im doing it. 5th gens are just two wire coils just like most motorcycles so I'm fine in the wiring department. People have been using moto coil on plugs on vehicle engine conversions for years and motorcycles so I know it'll work.

Also Im not a clown seeing as Ive worked on everythig Ive owned and nothing Ive done has broken. Go be a douche somewhere else.

This clown has finished.


Donor harness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP5h_XF-_Rw

Modified connectors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrzVZpg4EZA

Test start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVPNyVOlz9k

The clown I'm referring to is the guy in the video...but you are more than welcome to join him in the clowness as you see fit. :lol:

You or him or whomever can do whatever the fuck you wish to your bike. Be my guest...but when you modify something , there usually is some type of gain of some sort. There is absolutely no gain in what this guy is doing because all of that shit is buried under the fuel tank and most likely will prematurely wear out the driver in the ignition module.

Does he not realize that there is resistance from the secondary coil through the boot just as there is via a spark plug wire?

I would have hoped he measured the primary coil resistance on both the coil over plug vs the separate coil so he doesn't prematurely wear out the driver in the ignition module. Oh wait he doesn't even know what an ignition module is.

This is the guy that tells you this at a bike night and you're thinking to yourself...what a dolt. redflip

I'm the one that made the vids dumbass. :wtfru:


You're the guy that's too scared to pick of a screw driver. "OMG! Don't do that! If the manufacture didn't do that then it must have never meant to be."

The 6th gens use coil on plugs and their engine is the exact same (except for vtec) and they use the same spark plugs, same sensors, and the harness is almost the same.

Wow, I can't believe he had to spell out the obvious about who was in the vid :lmao:

101s a funny dude, man. Sometimes, he says brilliant shit, and you'd fucking swear someone hacked his account. Then this.

Engineers. Weird.

That's why companies never let them talk directly to the public, btw.

Would cause fucking panic. Lol.

Yeah...even JC didn't get it, read his first post And when someone says just before the video..."I'm just going to go this route..." you assume he pulled it off of youtube and is going to try it out. Sounds to me like he wanted to see what the response was before letting all of America know it was him. redflip

Now I see why you got offended at the clown comment. :lol My bad.raccoon

Dude..just measure the resistance across the two pins of the coil/boot assembly...then measure resistance across the OEM coil +/-. If they are close, then you will be fine. If they are much different, then you stand to burn out the ignition module IF the coil/boot assembly resistance is lower.

And I work in Service Engineering for Isuzu...I take shit apart many times per week...not to mention I was a tech for a Mazda dealer for 3 years before Engineering school.

I will. Luckily there are a lot of bikes that use these so one of them have to work. Youd think theyre all the same since we pretty much use the same spark plugs.

I dedicate this song to 101


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWtY_h4xo

To 101's point, it might be nice if you stated what the purpose of the mod is. What is it that you want to improve?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! I GIVE THE REASON IN THE FIRST 30 FUCKING SECONDS OF THE VID!


5th gen coils are reading 3.1 give or take. GSXR coils reading 1.6 give or take.

OK, so the first 30 seconds say.......1) that you want to clean shit up, IE appearance only.....but fair enough, that's cool I guess......2) You also say that you are switching to a 6th gen airbox, for some unspoken reason. :confused:

I guess on a VFR board they would know why 6th gen airboxes are better, but I doubt any of us do :confused:

Did you not see my throttle body swap in this section?


So here are the iridium spark plugs the 5th and 6th gen use.

5th gen - CR9EHIX-9 (not standard)

C - Thead Size - 10mm thread
R - Construction - Resistor type
9 - Heat Rating - 9 (lower = hotter, higher = colder)
EH - Thread Reach - Partial thread
IX - Thread Reach - high performance iridium
9 - Wide Gap - 9 (.9mm)


6th gen - IMR9B-9H (standard iridium)

I - Plug Type - Iridium Platnium
M - Metal Shell Size - 10, 19mm (3/4") Reach, 16mm (5/8") hex
R - Construction - Resistor
9 - Heat Rating - 9
B - Firing end construction - Special Design
9 - Wide Gap - 9 (.9mm)
H - Feature - only had A-D listed. H????


2009 GSXR 750 should be.

NGK CR9EIA-9


http://www.ngksparkplugs.ca/documents/partnumberkey.pdf

5th gen FSM resistances/voltages:

Ignition coil peak voltage: 100 V minimum
Ignition pulse generator peak voltage: .7 V minimum
coil resistance: No info

6th gen

*SAME*


'09 GSXR 750

Ignition coil primary peak voltage: 80 V and more ----- While cranking
Generator coil resistance: 0.2 - 1.0 Ohms
Ignition coil resistance: Primary - 1.1-1.9 Ohms. Secondary - 6.4 - 9.6 kOhms

All the FSM shows about the coils is testing the primary peak voltage.

Well it's not clear...you say you want to get rid of the coils to "clean shit up". But...all that shit is hidden under the tank.

3.1 / 1.6 what is this?

The resistances you asked for.

So you have 2x the current flowing to the primary coil from the ignition module. I hope it can handle it over time. :idk:

That's what I said to her.


It's a work in progress 101. You're getting more worried than my bro does and he's a worry freak.

I thought you'd posted in RS' previous threads where he'd done some mods to his bike so I figured you knew from there :lol:

I don't think so....never even dawned on me it was him.