200 series tire
Ok I know I'll probably get some crap for this but try to keep an open mind...
I've been thinking about replacing my tire with a 200/50-17. I have several reasons for this; 1. appearance- I like the look of the wider tire 2. performance- in '05/'06 Corser and most of the WSB guys on GSXRs ran 200s at most tracks. Claimed better traction,control,etc. 3. environment- the area I'm living in now doesn't have alot of tight twisty roads but LOADS of long sweeping corners. 4. cost- I can get a Pirelli Diablo installed for $150 in the 200 size. 5. fun- I enjoy trying new things. Maybe I'll love it or maybe I'll hate it. 6. temporary- The way I ride,it'll only be on the bike for 2 months max anyway so why not? Then I'll buy the Rosso's! :drool: 7. resale- Around here I could sell the tire in 10 min to some kid with a stretched 600 if I hate it. Heck,Shinko tires are the ones to have around these parts! :hangman: The dealership has a roomful... Ok,I'm ready for my beating now...:wink: |
do it, what the hell, i went from a 190 to a 180 and loved it, different strokes for different folks, just let us know what you think
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Yea that's the direction most people go...I guess I'll try it and see,there's no real harm and I actually liked going from a 180 to a 190 in the old days.. |
As long as you can fit it on the tire I say go for it.
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you mean rim, trip?
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Well,it's a 6" rim so I'd imagine it'll be ok. I'm concerned about the tire being too close to the chain (and chain lube) but other than that... |
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You will lose a fair bit of handling with that, but because of your area shouldn't be a big deal. A 50 is going to be fairly square. I am going to be putting a 190/55 17 to get better cornering.
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Maybe,I have a 190/50 on it now ofcourse. This is a VERY stupid question but here goes... shouldn't the 200 be taller? Bear with me,the rim is 6",if you take a 190mm line and make an arc from lip to lip and a 200mm line and make an arc,wouldn't the 2nd be a "taller" arc? Plus,some of that 200mm goes to side walls doesn't it? I actually understand car tires reasonably well,but mc tire specs have always confused me alittle.... For example, a 300/50-20 car tire (just a #) has 300mm from bead to bead and 50% of that distance is sidewall. Thus the sidewalls are 75mm each and the tread is 150mm..right? Obviously,the same formula doesn't apply to a mc tire as the "sidewalls" are significantly less that 50% of the total bead to bead length of the tire. I don't know...anybody? |
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a 265/55R18 car tire is 265mm across the tread, the side wall is 145.75mm tall (55% of 265) and it fits an 18" rim. I'm thinking a bike tire say 190/55R17 is going to be 190 mm edge to edge on the tread side wall would be 55% of 190 = 104.5 and run on a 17" rim. :idk: |
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BTW from an earlier discussion...it's unanimous,suzuki,dunlop,pirelli and bridgestone suggest 36 psi front and 42 psi rear for a GSXR1000. The om lists these numbers wether you are single or two-up. |
yeah those are the same psi that honda says go the pig
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yeah some of the people here had me doubting psi's I've used since '99! |
i dont run them at the pressure, but thats what the book says, i perfer 32 front and back, but im gonna run the 36 42 for this trip
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Oh I couldn't handle 32psi especially not front and back!!! Although you did say you fitted a 180 on your bike. Maybe that makes it ok. I tried a few different pressures but I always kept the difference between the front and rear. I ended up back at 36/42. My bike just doesn't "feel" right at any other pressure....hmmmm maybe I should just stick to the 190...:leaving: |
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My old Suzuki has a 130 rear tire, but the Works Performance shocks raise the rear end almost an inch. Gives it pretty good handling for a 29-year-old bike. |
003 shinkos are cheap, and really sticky. go for it.
metzler makes a 210mm tire, try that as well. it fits a 6inch rim. either way, try it the way u have your bike setup now, and then adjust your suspension to work with the new tire, and then tell us how it compares to the 190 you got. i think a wider tire-to a point-looks better as well. i hated the 130 i had on my kz, went to a 140, still wasnt enough, went to a 180. looks decent, i thinkim gonna try a 7inch slick next |
It's your bike do what you want. I would like to hear a report back on how it changed your handling.
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I run 36 frt and 42 rear as well on the R1 and 36/36 on the R6.
If it fits go for it...shouldn't make that much of a difference in your area and it will look good I bet. |
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Cool,so perhaps any "loss" from changing the width could possibly be negated by the increase in height. hmmm.... Oh as far as handling increases from the "width" increase,I was thinking perhaps a larger footprint? |
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both will be the same width, but the 225/70 17 will have a taller sidewall. |
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