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Old 01-24-2011, 12:47 PM   #37
Apoc
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Originally Posted by CasterTroy View Post
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First off...you assume a lot my friend

Second...I never said the 450's WERE as crazy stupid as a 500. I was laughing at the docile comment. You rode ONE 450 and deemed them "docile"
I never said it was docile, I said it feels docile compared to a 2 stroke. Dont get me wrong, the damn things are mean as hell, but they dont have the snap of a 2 stroke. Wheelie in every gear? Hell yes they do. But so does a cr250. Rev fast as hell? Yes, but not like a 2 stroke.

I love the new 4 strokes, they are cool as hell. Much better suspensions, lighter than ever. But they dont have that instant snap that a 2 stroke does.

I would never buy a 250/4, mostly because i'm 6'4, 300lbs (I wouldnt buy any new dirt bike right now actually), but they cant be compared to the smokers in flat out power. At least up till a few years ago, anyway. The yzf I rode is an 06, so perhaps im off base and there has been major improvements, but as of then, not even close. I also owned a 2006 trx450r (honda race quad), and while it was about 75 pounds heavier than a 450 dirt bike, it was close to as fast. A ton of fun? yes. As powerful as, say, a banshee? Not even close.

All im saying is that if you can ride a 250/2, there is no problem to ride a 450/4, and thats pretty much that.

Personally, if I can afford it, im going to pick up either a KX or CR500 this summer, because like Tmall, I want to get out of street riding altogether (between insurance and bike payments, it just isnt worth it to me anymore). I love those old bikes. But if I was going to go new, I wouldnt be looking at 250's, as I spend most of my time in gravel pits and logging roads.

Now, if he wanted something for tight trail riding or trail racing, i'd agree on looking for a 250, but he's not.

And as far as trail bikes, well, personally I hate them. I've ridden a few, and they have done everything well, but nothing great. With a dirt bike, he can do it all, trails, jumps, hard riding, easy riding, and he can even motard it if he wants.

Anyway, im not arguing because I think one kind is better than the other, they are all a ton of fun. Im arguing because he asked a question about 2 different bikes, and got answers that didnt involve any of them. He wanted to know if he should go with the KX450, or the YZ450. And all he got for an answer was 'Get a trail bike' and 'Get a 250'.
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