Take Heart......

[Tmall]

Good write up.

One thing I've noticed about new riders, they spend too much time worrying. If they'd relax and let things come, things would feel natural and not forced. Just my humble opinion of course.

Those guys who took to it like duck to water probably don't put half as much thought into it as your buddy who over analyzes what he's doing and then feels inadequate.

[marko138]

There's my boy. You had that Bimota out yet? When I finish this cup of coffee I'm going out to prep the bike for it's first ride...a whole 4 miles to work.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Good write up.

One thing I've noticed about new riders, they spend too much time worrying. If they'd relax and let things come, things would feel natural and not forced. Just my humble opinion of course.

Those guys who took to it like duck to water probably don't put half as much thought into it as your buddy who over analyzes what he's doing and then feels inadequate.

Another thing ot add is for the tweeners to ride their own ride and not try to play keep up with the faster guys. I always stress that on our group rides since the guys we ride with have a wide range in terms of skills, from intermediate to advanced track guys to newer guys just starting out and some that are just admittedley slow and are fine with that.

I always want to make sure we all have fun and i dont have to do any work related type stuff out on our rides

Tom

[smileyman]

Good stuff as usual OTB! And I agree.

From my experience, learning means take your ego and toss it. Forget about comparing yourself to "the naturals" or any other rider for that matter and get into your own learning curve.

It sounds existential and probably like something you would hear from Keith Code but you have to get into your own space and love what your doing. What your observing about your riding and your experience. Sure take the tips from the faster guys and apply the time tested techniques but forget about how they are doing in relation to yourself and discover your riding style.

I once heard a magician explain that the secret to discovering magic was to quit trying to figure out "how he did it?" and start by thinking "How could I do it?!"

[z06boy]

Damn nice post/thread.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Good stuff as usual OTB! And I agree.

From my experience, learning means take your ego and toss it. Forget about comparing yourself to "the naturals" or any other rider for that matter and get into your own learning curve.

It sounds existential and probably like something you would hear from Keith Code but you have to get into your own space and love what your doing. What your observing about your riding and your experience. Sure take the tips from the faster guys and apply the time tested techniques but forget about how they are doing in relation to yourself and discover your riding style.

I once heard a magician explain that the secret to discovering magic was to quit trying to figure out "how he did it?" and start by thinking "How could I do it?!"

That totally works for me weather on the street or the track. When I am trying to keep up with faster guys on the street I get frustrated and make more mistakes. On the track when i just kind alet it go and ride I seem to do better, even though I do need to work on stuff. But i know I am also my own worst enemy out there sometimes.

Tom

[smileyman]

My fast street/highway pace is way different than my fast track pace. Not only in terms of how much of my personal riding limit I am operating at but also the technique and speeds...

At the end of the day though it is my style, my pace, and my learning curve. You have to judge for your self where your making mistakes and how you could have done better. Then you have to find your own personal way to change your technique.

Look at the pro Baseball pitchers...Any of them look like the picture perfect technique taught to little leagues? Or collegiate pitchers? No, they have taken the basics, made them their own, and found out how they can do it...sometimes better.

Compare roadracers Mick Doohan, Max Biaggi, Colin Edwards, Troy Bayiss. They all have their own technique and compete at the highest level. They can all tell you how they manage traction and find lines. Not how you should, but how they should. Your mileage may vary!

[tommymac]

Agreed, funny track story here. A few coaches from one org were telling me I had to have my body position one way. Then I went to a track day/school and they actulay said the way I was positiong my body was good and they even taught it that way so go figure.

Tom

[smileyman]

Mick Doohan's body position stunk. Looks as if he had a supermoto backgorund sitting up and pushing the bike down...


And Colin Edwards long legs made it seem he leans off a mile...


Here's Bayliss and Corser

Granted you would have to see how each goes thru the same corner but I digress, this is not the thread for that discussion!