2011 MotoGP pre-season trash talk thread - Page 5

smileyman · 03-16-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

There's only one sattelite honda this year. Everyone else is on full factory equipment. You are also assuming ducati listens to their input and effectively develops new parts.

So that is why they are so fast...HRC went full monty. Remember when Rossi switched to Yamaha and Gibbers was carrying the HRC flag with about 6 other Hondas in the field? They tripped themselves up more often than not and split the factory teams points up pretty badly. Rossi and Yamaha swooped in for the kill. I DON'T think that will be the case here. That many fast Hondas should make it hard for the Duc to come thru all the traffic. Not to mention 2 really fast Yamahas. And I dont think they have the magic to completely reinvent the Duc like Yamaha did for them after Max left. They will try but after seeing last years Desmo fuel consumption and handling issues I am not betting on it. Make it faster sure, make it fast enough to win poles and break away, no. Over race distance, no.

Just my 2 cents.

anthonyk · 03-16-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KSGregman

I'm REALLY curious to see if Rossi is sand bagging in testing....my shoulder...my shoulder....to try to some kind of weird mind effect on the opposition....lull them into thinking he is wounded and slow and then pouncing on them in the first race to "shock" them.....but....

I think the truth is he is older...his aura of invincibility battered by the broken leg and shoulder....and he's on a bike that is NOTORIOUS for being difficult to ride FAST. I honestly think he made a big mistake by falling for the "dream team, Italian rider on an Italian bike!!!" hype.

First race is coming up....and we'll get our first indication as to where the truth REALLY lies.

Mistake, or just itching for a shot at proving he can take a under-performing bike and make it a winner (again)? Tough call.

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Originally Posted by Dave

If his shoulder is so bad why'd he race at vroom? Why'd he do stand up wheelies at the superbike test? Why hasn't he acted impared anywhere besides the back of the gp11?

If I had to wager, I'd guess that riding a GP bike at race pace (especially the Duc) is a whole lot harder on his shoulder than either of those two events.

He might be sandbagging, but like y'all said, we'll see at the first race.

fnfalman · 03-17-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Ducati ain't yamaha and rossi ain't stoner

Yeah, Ducati actually has a fast bike. Of course Rossi ain't Stoner. He's a 9-timex world champion. Stoner is a one-shot-wonder.

Dave · 03-17-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman

Yeah, Ducati actually has a fast bike. Of course Rossi ain't Stoner. He's a 9-timex world champion. Stoner is a one-shot-wonder.

If ford prefect were to describe the gp11, he'd say it looked like a fish moved like a fish steers like a cow. My comment was first pointed at the factory, you know that small, funds limited, shop with an adversion to change? The other half is at the rider, as I have serious doubts stick boy can muscle the bike around like stoner had to.

This comment on crash cracked me up

Stoners bike - 80%

Rossi's shoulder - 78.2345% (minute-by-minute update apparently)

JB's blood pressure 185/98

Suppo Livio's hard-on - 100%

Rossi's desperate grab for attention from mid-pack - 150%

Another Trophy in Stoners cabinet?

Priceless. Posted by Damo - Unregistered (50 minutes ago)

fnfalman · 03-17-2011, 07:06 PM

If "muscling" the bike around is all it took, then Nicky would have been winning.

Maybe Stoner wasn't good enough of a racer to convince Ducati to change, but Rossi seems to.

smileyman · 03-17-2011, 08:18 PM

stoner didnt need the ducati changed. he was the only one who could win on it. he wont have to change the honda and should be twice as dangerous since he doesnt have to ride around the front end chatter

Dave · 03-17-2011, 08:18 PM

Denial ain't just a river in egypt bro

Brandon · 03-18-2011, 04:07 PM

never count out Rossi.

Casey will dominate if he cant stay upright. that dude is fast and when his bike is right, nobody will touch him.

fnfalman · 03-18-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

stoner didnt need the ducati changed. he was the only one who could win on it. he wont have to change the honda and should be twice as dangerous since he doesnt have to ride around the front end chatter

He won ONE season. Then Rossi proceeded to whip his ass for the next two and then Lorenzo whipped his ass last year.

L8 Braker · 03-18-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman

He won ONE season. Then Rossi proceeded to whip his ass for the next two and then Lorenzo whipped his ass last year.

Can't argue with that

But this year, Casey appears to be holding the belt

And BTW, not only will I be rooting for Stoner, I'm defending him

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Lorenzo	1	8.33%
Spies	2	16.67%
Hayden	0	0%
Simoncelli	0	0%
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03-17-2011, 07:06 PM	#45
fnfalman Europhile Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure Posts: 1,875	If "muscling" the bike around is all it took, then Nicky would have been winning. Maybe Stoner wasn't good enough of a racer to convince Ducati to change, but Rossi seems to. __________________ *Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride*

03-17-2011, 08:18 PM	#46
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	stoner didnt need the ducati changed. he was the only one who could win on it. he wont have to change the honda and should be twice as dangerous since he doesnt have to ride around the front end chatter __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

03-17-2011, 08:18 PM	#47
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	Denial ain't just a river in egypt bro

03-18-2011, 04:07 PM	#48
Brandon 1 up 5 down Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Allegany NY Moto: 08 1098s Posts: 58	never count out Rossi. Casey will dominate if he cant stay upright. that dude is fast and when his bike is right, nobody will touch him.