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Old 10-17-2008, 11:49 AM   #11
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What he is saying is that full floating rotors are designed to float in their carriers and that they get brake dust and road grime packed in their and cause them to freeze up...I have personally never liked full floaters cause they do require maintenance and they are noisy. When I have used them in racing applications I clean them while I am cleaning the calipers with Brake contact cleaner and a tooth brush. Most street bikes are semi-floaters and this won't really apply...
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:53 AM   #12
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What he is saying is that full floating rotors are designed to float in their carriers and that they get brake dust and road grime packed in their and cause them to freeze up...I have personally never liked full floaters cause they do require maintenance and they are noisy. When I have used them in racing applications I clean them while I am cleaning the calipers with Brake contact cleaner and a tooth brush. Most street bikes are semi-floaters and this won't really apply...
I understand now. Floaters are weird. I knew a girl that upgraded to full-floating rotors on her 1st gen R1. I was like "your rotors are loose", haha.

What's the benefit from full-floaters anyway?
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Floaters don't go away when you flush....
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:00 PM   #14
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Floaters don't go away when you flush....
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Floating rotors cancel out alot of the centrifugal forces of the front wheel. When attached solidly they (rotors) lose contact slightly with the pads as the wheel spins and twists. The wheel is torquing around the rotor inside the caliper. Floaters are designed to stay flush with the pads inside the calipers allowing for maximum friction.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:05 PM   #15
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Floating rotors cancel out alot of the centrifugal forces of the front wheel. When attached solidly they (rotors) lose contact slightly with the pads as the wheel spins and twists. The wheel is torquing around the rotor inside the caliper. Floaters are designed to stay flush with the pads inside the calipers allowing for maximum friction.
Wouldn't there be less friction between the pads and the rotors giving you better acceleration and top end?
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:17 PM   #16
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Wouldn't there be less friction between the pads and the rotors giving you better acceleration and top end?
Not necessarily...I mean first of all if you keep your caliper pistons free of gunk they release completely after you let off the brake and second of all the free floating rotor will walk slightly in its carriers making them more likely to drag or contact a on a pad as you roll the wheel.

I think the only real reason is better more efficent braking.

If you want straight away speed and better handling the way to go is lighter rotors and wheels too if you can. Another parasitic loss to straightaway speed is with conventional wheel bearings. Most pros use ceramic coated and really slick wheel bearings to cut down friction...
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:22 PM   #17
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Thank you smiley i was feeling like a retard for not being able to explain it
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:33 PM   #18
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Thank you smiley i was feeling like a retard for not being able to explain it
That's cause you are a retard! J/K! LOL!
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Smiley's old. He should know how to explain things well (and he did). Ant?...not so much.
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