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Old 03-02-2008, 04:48 PM   #1
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Honestly, your list is my list as well.


(1) Rider Training/ Trackdays
(2) Tires
(3) Suspension
(4) Gearing
(5) Brake Pads/Lines

Thats about the ideal list for top 5 right there.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:22 PM   #2
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Thats about the ideal list for top 5 right there.
Except I'd change the order...

Training / MSF / Trackdays
Brakes (because even when you blow a tire, you have to stop)
Tires (because you only have two...)
Suspension (better handling = better handling)
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:45 AM   #3
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Training
Suspension
Tires
Brakes
Power Management

Most important should be learn what you ride and where you ride. I rode the hell outta my stock SV and put a lot of guys to shame on "real" sport bikes up at the Dragon. That's because I know what my bike is capable of and I know how far I can push it. I also have the rode memorized to where I can replay each run back in my head. Sometimes I'll spend all day just riding back and forth on a 2 mile section of rode, just so I can maximize my bikes potential in that section.

It's not what you ride, but how you ride it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:58 PM   #4
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1. Training/Track Days
2. Wheels
3. Tires
4. Suspension
5. Exhaust/fuel mapping

I think that brakes can only be slightly improved because most factory brakes on sport bikes are awesome.

The wheels make for marked performance in acceleration, deceleration and maneuverability.

Tires...they speak for themselves.

Suspension set-up and/or replacement parts are a great way to aid overall performance of the bike.

Exhaust and fuel mapping makes for a smooth throttle response that's critical for fast riding. Not to mention great for lane splitting too. A herky-jerky throttle makes for some interesting rides during lane splitting.

And yes, losing lots of weights really help!!! I'm looking to drop another twenty pounds. I've lost 17-pounds and that really made a big difference. It's like dropping another set of stock exhaust and catalytic converter.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:59 PM   #5
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wheels really that much a factor in performance? whats your logic?
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:18 PM   #6
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wheels really that much a factor in performance? whats your logic?
Reduction in rotational mass and unsprung weight... improves braking and accelleration due to the brakes and engine not having to work as hard... (sorta like if you put 20's on your car and don't change the brakes your car is harder to get going and harder to stop)... Not having all that weight rotating also greatly reduces gyroscopic forces improving turn-in and general manuverability... Unsprung weight allows the suspension to work better...
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:04 AM   #7
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1. Rider training / track days
2. Tires
3. Suspension
4. Rider fitness
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:22 AM   #8
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Reduction in rotational mass and unsprung weight... improves braking and accelleration due to the brakes and engine not having to work as hard... (sorta like if you put 20's on your car and don't change the brakes your car is harder to get going and harder to stop)... Not having all that weight rotating also greatly reduces gyroscopic forces improving turn-in and general manuverability... Unsprung weight allows the suspension to work better...
true... but the diffrence between the stock and light weight wheels gonna be that big a diffrence? there's no doubt that there is a diffrence... but to rank it #2 seems kinda high IMO...

I think that's what NtS was trying to say too...
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true... but the diffrence between the stock and light weight wheels gonna be that big a diffrence? there's no doubt that there is a diffrence... but to rank it #2 seems kinda high IMO...

I think that's what NtS was trying to say too...
Good point. To add $1200 a peice wheels isn't that high of a priority. Maybe if you have the extra cash and maybe if you're a competitive racer that needs any edge they can get. But not for your everyday track day rider. I don't think I'll ever buy aftermarket wheels.
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:56 AM   #10
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true... but the diffrence between the stock and light weight wheels gonna be that big a diffrence? there's no doubt that there is a diffrence... but to rank it #2 seems kinda high IMO...

I think that's what NtS was trying to say too...
Everything I've read... Yes, it will make a big difference...
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