GM Cancels 29mpg 4.5L Diesel Engine

[wildchild]

we would all rather ride around in little shoe boxes with fart cans right? At least that's what they tell us we should want.

[Dragonpaco]

i'm gonna drive around in my Lemans after ripping off the cat, with baby seal skin seat covers and shellaced humpback whale eyes to replace the headlights. i'm also looking for a way to make it run on burning styrofoam.

[RACER X]

or maybe they over exagerated their feat and are getting out before getting called out on it.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by RACER X

or maybe they over exagerated their feat and are getting out before getting called out on it.

That would be suspicion #1 for me.

#2 would be that it can't meet emissions standards as is.

#3, it can meet current emissions standards but it is close to the limit, and with states now reassured in their ability to set their own standards, tougher than the Fed's, GM doesn't think they will be able to sell it in enough states.

#4, it meets or exceeds all performance goals and runs clean as hell, but will be so damn expensive GM doesn't think they can sell it.

#5, it is a super-engine that can do everything, but GM is planning to close the factories capable of producing the engine and projected volume of this motor alone isn't enough to justify keeping any of the factories open.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by goof2

That would be suspicion #1 for me.

#2 would be that it can't meet emissions standards as is.

#3, it can meet current emissions standards but it is close to the limit, and with states now reassured in their ability to set their own standards, tougher than the Fed's, GM doesn't think they will be able to sell it in enough states.

#4, it meets or exceeds all performance goals and runs clean as hell, but will be so damn expensive GM doesn't think they can sell it.

#5, it is a super-engine that can do everything, but GM is planning to close the factories capable of producing the engine and projected volume of this motor alone isn't enough to justify keeping any of the factories open.

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong Wrong and Wrong. The engine was dropped because they were told to do so or moreso that the truck/SUV plants were the ones that should close. It was a trick engine...no exhaust manifolds and the turbo was in the center between the intake manifolds.

It was a 2010 calendar year complaint engine.

Its a damn shame.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong Wrong and Wrong. The engine was dropped because they were told to do so or moreso that the truck/SUV plants were the ones that should close. It was a trick engine...no exhaust manifolds and the turbo was in the center between the intake manifolds.

It was a 2010 calendar year complaint engine.

Its a damn shame.

Isn't that kind of what I said for #5?

Even though I listed it I still view it as a remote possibility. GM is not closing every truck plant. Even if trucks and SUVs die as passenger vehicles there will still be a demand for trucks, and consequently a need to build trucks for the commercial market. I think the commercial market buys a hell of a lot more diesel trucks than the passenger market, meaning the engine would still be viable. That is unless it isn't too expensive or can't meet emissions.

[Rsv1000R]

Originally Posted by goof2

Isn't that kind of what I said for #5?

Even though I listed it I still view it as a remote possibility. GM is not closing every truck plant. Even if trucks and SUVs die as passenger vehicles there will still be a demand for trucks, and consequently a need to build trucks for the commercial market. I think the commercial market buys a hell of a lot more diesel trucks than the passenger market, meaning the engine would still be viable. That is unless it isn't too expensive or can't meet emissions.

IMO it's getting killed because the costs to put it in production will not be recovered at the price and quantity that is estimated to be sold at least in the near term, and they can OEM an equevelent engine from someone else for a lot less money. In the past they'd pony up the development costs, I'd bet there's have been some long meetings going over list of projects looking for projects to cut.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by wildchild

we would all rather ride around in little shoe boxes with fart cans right? At least that's what they tell us we should want.

Works for me............Less weight = more agility

Kinda like the motorcycles you guys ride?

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Works for me............Less weight = more agility

Kinda like the motorcycles you guys ride?

Some people like different vehicles to be capable of different things. You can't tow a boat with a Prius or a Mini.

[Homeslice]

No, but I've seen sportbikes being towed by Minis, Integras, and even a Miata.