"He got on his knees and begged, ‘No, Daddy, no,’ and he pulled the trigger,"

shmike · 11-19-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Statistically speaking, most molesters acquired the behaviour by being molested themselves. It is also common for people to react far more aggressively to behaviour that they see in themselves. That doesn't mean the father is a molester himself, but it bears looking into based on the cumulative experience in such cases.

No one wins in a situation like this. No one is a hero.

Agreed on all counts.

Molestation is often a power issue.

The fact that the Dad made him strip and them ordered him around before acting raises red flags (power struggles) as well.

z06boy · 11-19-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shmike

The fact that the Dad made him strip and them ordered him around before acting raises red flags (power struggles) as well.

Sounds like he wanted to humiliate his son like the son did to the 3 year old so he would know how it feels.

Maybe not...just another possibility.

Several of you guys make good points.

What a messed up situation.

Papa_Complex · 11-19-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shmike

Agreed on all counts.

Molestation is often a power issue.

The fact that the Dad made him strip and them ordered him around before acting raises red flags (power struggles) as well.

Well noted. Almost all sexually related crimes come down to power, rather than the sex itself.

Rider · 11-19-2009, 11:43 AM

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Well noted. Almost all sexually related crimes come down to power, rather than the sex itself.

See, I've never understood this. I just can't imagine someone needing that much power over someone else.

azoomm · 11-19-2009, 11:45 AM

Talking about this very story in the Orthodontist office today - most are surprised that the father didn't turn the gun on himself after. That it was a guilt issue [like some saying here].

Rider · 11-19-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

Talking about this very story in the Orthodontist office today - most are surprised that the father didn't turn the gun on himself after. That it was a guilt issue [like some saying here].

Yeah in thinking about it, it could have been a way for the father to cover up what he might have done to his son years ago.

z06boy · 11-19-2009, 11:52 AM

Made me think of the ending to the movie "American Beauty" when the tough azz ex military father beat/abused his son because he 'thought' he was gay and then tried to kiss Kevin Spacey himself.

He then took a gun and shot Spacey in the back of the head. Yeah I know...different but this is what it reminded me of.

He was so against his son being gay and then showed signs of it himself.

Kaneman · 11-19-2009, 11:56 AM

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Made me think of the ending to the movie "American Beauty" when the tough azz ex military father beat/abused his son because he 'thought' he was gay and then tried to kiss Kevin Spacey himself.

He then took a gun and shot Spacey in the back of the head. Yeah I know...different but this is what it reminded me of.

He was so against his son being gay and then showed signs of it himself.

Or a gay senator/pastor that rallies against gay marriage by day and sucks cocks by night. Its fairly common behavior.

Kaneman · 11-19-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider

See, I've never understood this. I just can't imagine someone needing that much power over someone else.

Well, were you molested by a trusted adult as a kid?

Rider · 11-19-2009, 11:57 AM

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Well, were you molested by a trusted adult as a kid?

Yeah if you count my 16yo babysitter when I was 10..... j/k

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z06boy Letzroll Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Norman area, NC Moto: 07 Red R1 & 07 Blue R6 Posts: 5,265	Made me think of the ending to the movie "American Beauty" when the tough azz ex military father beat/abused his son because he 'thought' he was gay and then tried to kiss Kevin Spacey himself. He then took a gun and shot Spacey in the back of the head. Yeah I know...different but this is what it reminded me of. He was so against his son being gay and then showed signs of it himself.