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Old 01-14-2013, 04:32 PM   #1
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The president is out there leading the call for gun control, the VP is urging him to do it via EO like some tinpot dictator. If it were the Bradys, Bloomberg, Feinstein, Schumer etc doing it, with him being a non-participant I agree it would be a red herring. Calling him and the other elected officials that have armed bodyguards (or are armed themselves like Feinstein) to protect them and their families, but expect us to hope we're never at the wrong place at the wrong time as hypocrites is fair in this case.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:23 PM   #2
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I love it. If I were American, I'd definitely sign.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:58 AM   #3
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One in every one high level politician, without protection, would be the victim of violent crime or property crime without protection.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:50 PM   #4
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One in every one high level politician, without protection, would be the victim of violent crime or property crime without protection.
Even if that were the case, so what? If it is simply a matter of using probability to determine who can have a gun to protect themselves then again, where does that cutoff lie?
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:22 PM   #5
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Even if that were the case, so what? If it is simply a matter of using probability to determine who can have a gun to protect themselves then again, where does that cutoff lie?
Rich people who make a lot of enemies?
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:48 PM   #6
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Even if that were the case, so what? If it is simply a matter of using probability to determine who can have a gun to protect themselves then again, where does that cutoff lie?
Everything is digital, when making self serving decisions. Zero or one. Yes or no. Life isn't like that.
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Everything is digital, when making self serving decisions. Zero or one. Yes or no. Life isn't like that.
I agree, life is not like that. You seem to disagree with the premise though.

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If the average citizen was in as much potential danger as the people you name, then I might agree with you. The average citizen isn't. I don't.
Average citizen = no; the people Twobanger mentioned = yes. All based on your perception of the potential danger each group faces.

As you said life isn't like that, yet you have made decisions about what options should be available to each group of people based on generalizations.
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One in every one high level politician, without protection, would be the victim of violent crime or property crime without protection.
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What I disagree with is the practise of taking things to absolutely ridiculous extremes, in order to try and prove a point. That is where this thread started.
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I can't think of a major politician who doesn't receive credible threats on at least a weekly basis. Can you?
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I can't think of a major politician who doesn't receive credible threats on at least a weekly basis. Can you?
Define major?

Our former senators and house members were pretty safe and well regarded. Our current... yet to be seen.
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