want a 600cc SS bike for a first bike?

Amber Lamps · 11-11-2008, 04:19 PM

I loved the V-Max! Lots of character and a great place to learn throttle control and how to recover from a tank slapper!!!

To anyone else,I have long fought this "You HAVE to start on a 250 or you're a stupid,vain,ignorant squid" battle for decades and I will be glad to fight it with you all (if Trip will let me that is....). The problem I have with these posts is not the advice given. It is great advice. I HATE the sanctimonious fucking,"I know better than you" way you jackasses deliver it!

When I came back from the gulf and after spending a couple months in the hospital. My ass went out and spent my combat pay on the bike I wanted! So I'm with Dave on this one.

If a guy comes up to me and asks my advice on what is a good starter bike and has zero experience. I ask him what he wants and then try to bring him down a notch or two if necessary/possible. I encourage him to take classes and if I know him,I offer to help him learn the ropes. What I don't do is stand over him and tell him that all his "EXCUSES" for wanting that bike are STUPID AND WRONG!!!

Who the fuck am I to tell a GROWN MAN/WOMAN what they can spend their hard earned money on? Or what they can or can't handle?

BTW Last I checked (and I could be wrong),everyone on this board is an experienced rider and we really didn't need you to come over here and counsel us on what bikes we should buy. You can go ahead and take that shit back to where ever you came from. Thanks anyway!

RACER X · 11-11-2008, 04:35 PM

strange, more soldiers in the last yr have died on bikes (sportbikes specifically) then in IRAQ, strange but true.

and correct me if i'm wrong, but this is the "beginner's end" i assume, new rider section?

found the answer

"For future riders and new riders looking to increase their knowledge."

Mr Lefty · 11-11-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

If a guy comes up to me and asks my advice on what is a good starter bike and has zero experience. I ask him what he wants and then try to bring him down a notch or two if necessary/possible. I encourage him to take classes and if I know him,I offer to help him learn the ropes. What I don't do is stand over him and tell him that all his "EXCUSES" for wanting that bike are STUPID AND WRONG!!! Who the fuck am I to tell a GROWN MAN/WOMAN what they can spend their hard earned money on? Or what they can or can't handle?

I agree tig... but when someone ASKS you what they should start on... and you say a 250 or 500 then they say... "aww... but I was leaning towards the 1000" it gets fuck'n annoying... or the "well I'm mature for my age" or "I know myself... I'll get tired of it'' to me those are completely BS and retarded answers... and it's hard for me not to say so.

in reality no... I have no say in what he/she spends their money on... but if you don't want my advice don't ask. if you just want someone to support your preconceived choice... stand in front of a fuck'n mirror and ask away!

in the end... that's the only one who really cares anyhow.

RACER X · 11-11-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

in the end... that's the only one who really cares anyhow.

i disagree. thats why i became and inst. vs an i-net opinion.

but i agree w/ the rest of your comment.

dReWpY · 11-11-2008, 04:57 PM

personally its a good topic and should be left up cause new riders come in and search the old posts and learn from the in the informtion that you lay down

Mr Lefty · 11-11-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

i disagree. thats why i became and inst. vs an i-net opinion.

but i agree w/ the rest of your comment.

but do you REALLY care what bike every rider is on? yes I'm sure you care that he/she is safe... but the TYPE of bike doesn't really matter. or at least shouldn't.

I for one could care less what you ride... the fact that you ride, and more importantly HOW you ride... is important to me.

I too want to try instructing... eventually... need about 60k more under my belt before I even start pursuing it.

Amber Lamps · 11-11-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

i disagree. thats why i became and inst. vs an i-net opinion.

but i agree w/ the rest of your comment.

Of course you do,it's basically what you said but severally condensed down...

RACER X · 11-11-2008, 06:13 PM

fyi, it's a copy and paste

but anyways as you can see there are more YAYs then Nays

but keep on keepin on

i'll keep teaching noobs and you keep talking to em.

Amber Lamps · 11-11-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

fyi, it's a copy and paste

but anyways as you can see there are more YAYs then Nays

but keep on keepin on

i'll keep teaching noobs and you keep talking to em.

Um...the "yeas" never even read your entire post....trust me,I know these guys.

Oh and you can shit can the "I'm so much better than you because I teach MSF" attitude as well. Oh and I took MSF AND have assisted a few times back in the day. Whoopie Doo!!! You're like an elementary school basketball coach trying to take credit for Michael Jordan's NBA career. Yeesh...

RACER X · 11-11-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Whoopie Doo!!! You're like an elementary school basketball coach trying to take credit for Michael Jordan's NBA career. Yeesh...

very good analogy, and just like in bsaketball, if the basics aren't correct your not gonna be much of a player.

and you learn the basics of riding alot better on a beginner bike then an SS bike.

and yeah it's on every forum i visit, and stickied (by the mods for some strange reason, just like here) on every one, wonder why? vs your teachings of ????

so what kinda knowledge do you bring to the table besides your obvious wit and charm?

11-11-2008, 04:35 PM	#2
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	strange, more soldiers in the last yr have died on bikes (sportbikes specifically) then in IRAQ, strange but true. and correct me if i'm wrong, but this is the "beginner's end" i assume, new rider section? found the answer "For future riders and new riders looking to increase their knowledge." __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD. Last edited by RACER X; 11-11-2008 at 04:39 PM..

11-11-2008, 06:13 PM	#8
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	fyi, it's a copy and paste but anyways as you can see there are more YAYs then Nays but keep on keepin on i'll keep teaching noobs and you keep talking to em. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

11-11-2008, 04:19 PM	#1
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	I loved the V-Max! Lots of character and a great place to learn throttle control and how to recover from a tank slapper!!! To anyone else,I have long fought this "You HAVE to start on a 250 or you're a stupid,vain,ignorant squid" battle for decades and I will be glad to fight it with you all (if Trip will let me that is....). The problem I have with these posts is not the advice given. It is great advice. I HATE the sanctimonious fucking,"I know better than you" way you jackasses deliver it! When I came back from the gulf and after spending a couple months in the hospital. My ass went out and spent my combat pay on the bike I wanted! So I'm with Dave on this one. If a guy comes up to me and asks my advice on what is a good starter bike and has zero experience. I ask him what he wants and then try to bring him down a notch or two if necessary/possible. I encourage him to take classes and if I know him,I offer to help him learn the ropes. What I don't do is stand over him and tell him that all his "EXCUSES" for wanting that bike are STUPID AND WRONG!!! Who the fuck am I to tell a GROWN MAN/WOMAN what they can spend their hard earned money on? Or what they can or can't handle? BTW Last I checked (and I could be wrong),everyone on this board is an experienced rider and we really didn't need you to come over here and counsel us on what bikes we should buy. You can go ahead and take that shit back to where ever you came from. Thanks anyway!