Biggest BitTorrent Downloading Case in U.S. History Targets 23,000 Defendants

[fujimoh]

I hope they catch them all and fine them heavily

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

I hope they catch them all and fine them heavily

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

I hope they catch them all and fine them heavily

Who left the lid up on the toilet again? There's trolls getting in through there.

[fujimoh]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Obvious troll is obvious.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Who left the lid up on the toilet again? There's trolls getting in through there.

Supposed someone stole your motorcycle. Would that be OK?

Illegal downloading is stealing someone else's property. There is no difference. Supposed you worked on a book, movie or App for a smartphone, would you want to be paid for your effort, or would you give it away for free?

Please tell me what the difference is.

[OneSickPsycho]

Trollin' trollin' trollin'... keep them posts a trollin'...

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Some Florida person

Supposed someone stole your motorcycle. Would that be OK?

Illegal downloading is stealing someone else's property. There is no difference. Supposed you worked on a book, movie or App for a smartphone, would you want to be paid for your effort, or would you give it away for free?

Please tell me what the difference is.

Now back to reality....
Lets restate the "what if someone stole your property argument" to something to what it really is

Supposed someone made a copy of your motorcycle. Would that be OK?

Lets look at it from another perspective.

Supposed you spent a century building up a business model that sold replicas of original performances and then someone came along and offered it for free. would that be OK

And next.....

"What if someone paid you to make copies of something that you made and someone else comes along and gives away copies for free?"

Now lets look at the point of copyright.
To ensure that original authors have control over the distribution of their work.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

Supposed someone stole your motorcycle. Would that be OK?

I think Paul about covered it.

Speaking of motorcycles, you ride what? Or are you just here to troll?

This thread has been on topic for too long. Too much conTROLL

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by fujimoh

Supposed someone stole your motorcycle. Would that be OK?

Illegal downloading is stealing someone else's property. There is no difference. Supposed you worked on a book, movie or App for a smartphone, would you want to be paid for your effort, or would you give it away for free?

Please tell me what the difference is.

Yes, it is, but let me run something by you here. What if you were a photographer, who used recordable media to send images to your clients, but were forced to pay a 'levy' to the recording and movie industries on every blank CD/DVD that you purchased?

You see that's the position, that we're in, here in Canada. My work gets ripped off, just like theirs does. I have no recourse other than petitioning the thieves for redress, or suing them. I don't get any of that money, that's pinched from me when I buy blanks. I don't get to 'opt out' of paying it, for my legitimate use of blank recording media.

Here, in Canada, none of the illegal downloading cases have been successful, since the day that the industry managed to have that levy passed into law. The reasoning is that they asked for a way that they could be paid, for those illegal downloads, and the GOT IT. So of course, now, they want changes in the law so that they get two bites at the apple. All well and good, but what about protection for MY intellectual property?

Your "What if you...?" argument falls on deaf ears, with me, because all that I see is unequal treatment under the law.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Yes, it is, but let me run something by you here. What if you were a photographer, who used recordable media to send images to your clients, but were forced to pay a 'levy' to the recording and movie industries on every blank CD/DVD that you purchased?

You see that's the position, that we're in, here in Canada. My work gets ripped off, just like theirs does. I have no recourse other than petitioning the thieves for redress, or suing them. I don't get any of that money, that's pinched from me when I buy blanks. I don't get to 'opt out' of paying it, for my legitimate use of blank recording media.

Here, in Canada, none of the illegal downloading cases have been successful, since the day that the industry managed to have that levy passed into law. The reasoning is that they asked for a way that they could be paid, for those illegal downloads, and the GOT IT. So of course, now, they want changes in the law so that they get two bites at the apple. All well and good, but what about protection for MY intellectual property?

Your "What if you...?" argument falls on deaf ears, with me, because all that I see is unequal treatment under the law.

See, this works a lot better as an explanation than "What if someone stole your motorcycle"

[fujimoh]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Yes, it is, but let me run something by you here. What if you were a photographer, who used recordable media to send images to your clients, but were forced to pay a 'levy' to the recording and movie industries on every blank CD/DVD that you purchased?

You see that's the position, that we're in, here in Canada. My work gets ripped off, just like theirs does. I have no recourse other than petitioning the thieves for redress, or suing them. I don't get any of that money, that's pinched from me when I buy blanks. I don't get to 'opt out' of paying it, for my legitimate use of blank recording media.

Here, in Canada, none of the illegal downloading cases have been successful, since the day that the industry managed to have that levy passed into law. The reasoning is that they asked for a way that they could be paid, for those illegal downloads, and the GOT IT. So of course, now, they want changes in the law so that they get two bites at the apple. All well and good, but what about protection for MY intellectual property?

Your "What if you...?" argument falls on deaf ears, with me, because all that I see is unequal treatment under the law.

So you should clearly understand the need to protect personal and intellectual property.

I don't understand what the "levy" on recording media has to do with the theft of intellectual property.

This thread is about whether it is fair for people to pirate copyrighted material. If people are using your work without your permission or paying you royalties, you ought to feel the way I do that it is illegal and the thieves should be prosecuted.

Explain to me what that has to do with paying a surcharge on blank media like CD/DVD.