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Old 02-11-2010, 11:54 AM   #21
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Looks sweet.

Wagons are very similar to 5-door hatchbacks, so according to you a Mazdaspeed 3 must be gay too.

Personally, if anything's gay, it's crossover SUV's. Wagons are a lot more practical and spacious inside.
Wow... this is twice in a week we agree.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:06 PM   #22
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Personally, if anything's gay, it's crossover SUV's. Wagons are a lot more practical and spacious inside.
I'd have to disagree. My Acadia has much more cargo space than any wagon. It's just as wide, just as long, if not longer and taller. And AWD FTW.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:25 PM   #23
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I'd have to disagree. My Acadia has much more cargo space than any wagon. It's just as wide, just as long, if not longer and taller. And AWD FTW.
Depends which measurement you're talking about.
There are a few wagons with greater "luggage capacity", but the Acadia is clearly larger in "maximum cargo".
And several wagons on the market (new or used, so we can include the Magnum) have AWD.
Fwiw, if it weren't so damn expensive, the Acadia would be one crossover I'd consider.
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And several wagons on the market (new or used, so we can include the Magnum) have AWD.
A quick note about the Magnum. Dodge didn't want to take the CAFE hit on the Magnum since it was big, heavy (something AWD contributes to), and had some larger engines available. To avoid this they screwed around with the dimensions so it would be classified as an SUV. As far as the EPA is concerned the Magnum is a crossover SUV.

People think Crossovers are made to appeal to the consumer. That is part of it, but they are also made so that heavy vehicles with larger than average engines that get worse than average mileage don't penalize the manufacturers CAFE numbers. Crossovers are as much a creation of the government as they are of the consumer.
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Arcadia is just another truck to me.
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Arcadia is just another truck to me.
A 5000lb Truck
I'm not familiar with an Arcadia. Who makes it?
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I'd have to disagree. My Acadia has much more cargo space than any wagon. It's just as wide, just as long, if not longer and taller. And AWD FTW.
But is that with or without the 3rd row of seats? Looking at photos of the Acadia, there isn't all that much room behind the 3rd row.
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But is that with or without the 3rd row of seats? Looking at photos of the Acadia, there isn't all that much room behind the 3rd row.
Fold the 3rd row down. It folds flat. And if I fold the 2nd row down I can fit a full size sofa in the back. I can't shut the hatch all the way but it's close enough.
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Then you have a pretty decent size crossover. When I think crossover I think of stuff like Muranos and CRVs.
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I'm not familiar with an Arcadia. Who makes it?

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