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Old 06-09-2010, 03:35 PM   #21
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The overwhelming sentiment on the board seems to call for an end to the War on Drugs.
I don't know about that. My impression is the majority supports legalizing marijuana, but that support drops significantly when the conversation turns to Coke, Heroin, and other hard drugs. As long as some drugs remain illegal the "War on Drugs" continues practically unabated. About the only difference is the people who legally purchase and sell weed will fall off the radar.

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Do we allow any and all drugs into the country or only certain classes?
I support legalizing weed, but remain uncertain about some substances (acid, shrooms) and don't support legalization for others (coke, heroin).

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Whom or what would regulate the substances?
Probably ATF or FDA. They have experience regulating tobacco and I don't see things being much different with marijuana.

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What impact would these regulations / regulators have on the current drugs (pharmaceuticals)?
None.

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Would cases of addiction rise, fall or remain constant?
Remain constant I would expect. I don't see any reason why this would change.

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How would addicts (now) be handled / treated?
If it is just marijuana legalized I would expect nothing to change since marijuana isn't supposed to be addictive.

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What other costs / benefits do you see being associated?
I see a bunch of tax revenue being collected on its sale. It might even be enough to cover the inevitable growth in government they will claim is necessary to regulate the distribution, sale, and revenue collection involved for legalization.
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:37 PM   #22
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I don't know about that. My impression is the majority supports legalizing marijuana, but that support drops significantly when the conversation turns to Coke, Heroin, and other hard drugs. As long as some drugs remain illegal the "War on Drugs" continues practically unabated. About the only difference is the people who legally purchase and sell weed will fall off the radar.



I support legalizing weed, but remain uncertain about some substances (acid, shrooms) and don't support legalization for others (coke, heroin).



Probably ATF or FDA. They have experience regulating tobacco and I don't see things being much different with marijuana.



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Remain constant I would expect. I don't see any reason why this would change.



If it is just marijuana legalized I would expect nothing to change since marijuana isn't supposed to be addictive.



I see a bunch of tax revenue being collected on its sale. It might even be enough to cover the inevitable growth in government they will claim is necessary to regulate the distribution, sale, and revenue collection involved for legalization.

Thanks for your input.

I think you must be looking for the pot growing thread.

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=15131
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:53 PM   #23
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Thanks for your input.

I think you must be looking for the pot growing thread.

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=15131
Even if marijuana is legalized I'm not interested in smoking it so it doesn't matter either way to me.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:18 PM   #24
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Old 06-09-2010, 05:51 PM   #25
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I don't know about that. My impression is the majority supports legalizing marijuana, but that support drops significantly when the conversation turns to Coke, Heroin, and other hard drugs. As long as some drugs remain illegal the "War on Drugs" continues practically unabated. About the only difference is the people who legally purchase and sell weed will fall off the radar.



I support legalizing weed, but remain uncertain about some substances (acid, shrooms) and don't support legalization for others (coke, heroin).



Probably ATF or FDA. They have experience regulating tobacco and I don't see things being much different with marijuana.



None.



Remain constant I would expect. I don't see any reason why this would change.



If it is just marijuana legalized I would expect nothing to change since marijuana isn't supposed to be addictive.



I see a bunch of tax revenue being collected on its sale. It might even be enough to cover the inevitable growth in government they will claim is necessary to regulate the distribution, sale, and revenue collection involved for legalization.
Agree with your conclusions except 3.

It will start to be used as a pain killer more than now, pharm companies will loose some money, but not much

Addiction would fall as the legalized pot becomes much more readily available. Personally the only times I have ever tried anything harder than weed is because weed wasn't available

The gov would tax the crap out of it making a pack of joints cost $50, with $40 of that going to taxes. It would pay for the cost of regulating it by itself. in addition you would loose all the costs associated with the war on drugs (weed only), plus the costs of incarcerating people, and whatever medical cost benefits that can be attributed to it too. Plus the additional tax revenue from all the doritos that would be sold
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I don't think there's any reason not to legalize it except the government being unwilling to admit their ridiculous error. I don't think legalization would have much of an effect on society at large. Not sure what the effect would be on specialized jobs like cops, firefighters and the military. Right now we can't drink 8 hours prior to duty, they'd have to come up with a time frame for pot or not let us smoke. And it would for sure save the government money at the least, if it didn't put a huge amount of money back into our coffers. If managed correctly something like this could really help knock down the deficit. Of course, that's assuming the government can manage anything right.
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I don't think there's any reason not to legalize it except the government being unwilling to admit their ridiculous error. I don't think legalization would have much of an effect on society at large. Not sure what the effect would be on specialized jobs like cops, firefighters and the military. Right now we can't drink 8 hours prior to duty, they'd have to come up with a time frame for pot or not let us smoke. And it would for sure save the government money at the least, if it didn't put a huge amount of money back into our coffers. If managed correctly something like this could really help knock down the deficit. Of course, that's assuming the government can manage anything right.
Negative, smoking pot will never be acceptable in the military for good reason.
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Negative, smoking pot will never be acceptable in the military for good reason.
Bullshit on all accounts. Military personnel are notorious for getting fucked up.
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Bullshit on all accounts. Military personnel are notorious for getting fucked up.
Negative. What military were you in? The Army has random drug testing. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, I'm saying that it is "unacceptable" and against regulations. I also don't think that it will be acceptable in several industries for the same reasons that it isn't now. I don't want to be 30 stories up with some drug addict and I doubt that insurance companies are going to pay accident claims or worker's comp to dope users whether the actual substance is legal or not. Some jobs just simply shouldn't mix with drugs or alcohol, military, law enforcement, construction, material handling, medical, fire/rescue, government service, etc. Say what you will but I think that companies have a right not to higher or keep drug addicts on the pay roll. If they explain their drug policy up front, you should have nothing to say after the fact.
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Do we allow any and all drugs into the country or only certain classes?
Whom or what would regulate the substances?
What impact would these regulations / regulators have on the current drugs (pharmaceuticals)?
Would cases of addiction rise, fall or remain constant?
How would addicts (now) be handled / treated?
What other costs / benefits do you see being associated?
1. Well we'll at least allow any drugs made in this country to be sold in this country. Wether we allow other countries to sell us drugs can be up to our government. That is within their power

2. The private sector and the consumer

3. I guess you mean like Lortabs, Zanax, etc. No restrictions.

4. Don't know and it isn't my business.

5. If you become addicted to smack then you can die in the gutter.

6. I see all benefits.
- We get police away from wasting time, money, and men on vice crimes and get them fighting real crimes.
- The billion dollar drug industry is taken out of the hands of thugs and rednecks and put into the hands of Harvard MBAs and MIT chemists.
- Drug addicts and TWFix users quit bugging Tommymac for drugs and taking up hospital space for people who are really sick and really do need drugs.

Only downside. You'll have to talk to your own damn kids about drugs and actually act like a parent.
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