2011 Big Four model changes?

[Rider]

The gix 600 and 750 are due for an update.

Derf: The nice thing about the 750 is that it really is a 600 that has had the engine punched out 150cc over. The bikes are identical right down to every bolt. The only difference are the cylinder bore and some fuel mapping(and color options of course). It's a better bike than a 600 for both street and track. It's the best of both worlds. 600 handling with liter bike power. Just because it doesn't have a race class, means it's an obsolete bike. For a street going sport bike, a 750 is all I would ever own..... As long as they were still in production.

[smileyman]

I will heartily agree. It is the perfect compromise. I wish I had an old ZX7. My 636 would run all over it, but they were excellent fun bikes. That and I drooled over the Muzzy Bikes bac in the Day...

The current 750 may have less displacement but it has as much performance as the first couple generations of R1. And it has better suspension than most ten year old designs...

[derf]

Originally Posted by Rider

Derf: The nice thing about the 750 is that it really is a 600 that has had the engine punched out 150cc over. The bikes are identical right down to every bolt. The only difference are the cylinder bore and some fuel mapping(and color options of course). It's a better bike than a 600 for both street and track. It's the best of both worlds. 600 handling with liter bike power. Just because it doesn't have a race class, means it's an obsolete bike. For a street going sport bike, a 750 is all I would ever own..... As long as they were still in production.

Ok i thought it was a different and seperate bike that required a full re-design team and resources to update. The ZX7r was its own bike and needed its own design. It still requires suzuki resources to design build, and test a bored out engine, and I wonder if the profit they make from selling the 750 is worth the extra effort to build a seperate engine.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

I dropped by the local Suzuki dealership the other day and they're being told that there's only going to be a "limited number" of new motorcycles imported for the upcoming model year and that for a lot of models like the V-Strom the '09 is still to be considered the "current" model (which is why my most recent attempt to obtain a new one at a decent price fell through).

Yeh I've been looking at Vstroms too (not seriously) and they are holding their value big time right now, with many of them selling at or near new price, and the new ones at or above full MSRP

[Rider]

Originally Posted by derf

Ok i thought it was a different and seperate bike that required a full re-design team and resources to update. The ZX7r was its own bike and needed its own design. It still requires suzuki resources to design build, and test a bored out engine, and I wonder if the profit they make from selling the 750 is worth the extra effort to build a seperate engine.

Considering the 750 is generally about $1000 more than a 600, I would assume they recoup there engine R&D on the 750 pretty quickly given the number of units they sell. I'm guessing by the time they sell 5000 units they are making a profit.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Originally Posted by Rider

The gix 600 and 750 are due for an update.

Derf: The nice thing about the 750 is that it really is a 600 that has had the engine punched out 150cc over. The bikes are identical right down to every bolt. The only difference are the cylinder bore and some fuel mapping(and color options of course). It's a better bike than a 600 for both street and track. It's the best of both worlds. 600 handling with liter bike power. Just because it doesn't have a race class, means it's an obsolete bike. For a street going sport bike, a 750 is all I would ever own..... As long as they were still in production.

ya k but what are you going to do w/ that extra 150cc? you're really not gonna need any more powe on the track, and we all know damn well even a 600cc sport bike is just insane for street riding.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

what happened to all this talk about the other three brands comming out w/ a comparable mid/heavy size bike to compete w/ the 750? why will nobody touch this market?

The economy.

Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

ya k but what are you going to do w/ that extra 150cc? you're really not gonna need any more powe on the track, and we all know damn well even a 600cc sport bike is just insane for street riding.

More torque, better power curve.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

The economy.




More torque, better power curve.

Yea i get the benefits of the bigger motor, but thats my point. do you really NEED more torque and a better power band on the street? 99% of riders will never get close to the potential of their bike anyways.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

Yea i get the benefits of the bigger motor, but thats my point. do you really NEED more torque and a better power band on the street? 99% of riders will never get close to the potential of their bike anyways.

It's a more user friendly power band, you don't need to rev it to the moon to make it go, or it won't require that extra downshift that a 600 might.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

i must have some sort of different 600 then, my tach ends with a redline, not the moon. I will look into this.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

i must have some sort of different 600 then, my tach ends with a redline, not the moon. I will look into this.

The moon actually comes right before redline...
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