War on Drugs: Officially a Failure. - Page 4

goof2 · 05-14-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chi

I'm anti smoking, but as long as you keep it away from me I dont care what you do with it. (Except I still dont want to pay for some lung cancer ridden person who doesnt have health insurance.) Would weed cause cancer I wonder?

Didn't you hear? We are all going to have health insurance!

Seriously though, the amount of cigarette taxes collected from smokers should more than pay for treatment of uninsured smokers. You can also add in the hundreds of billions of dollars being collected by the states from the tobacco settlement in the late 90s. If the government actually spent these funds in the manner they said they would general taxpayers wouldn't be paying for anyone's treatments for anything.

the chi · 05-14-2010, 10:02 AM

Puhlease. Im not looking for anything good to come out of the healthcare thing. From what I understand, I may get penalized for opting out of my work insurance because I use my husbands, but thats a whole other can of worms.

You make a very good point. Not being a smoker, Im not up to date on the taxation on them, but I do remember my mom saying something about it in the last few years. I hadnt thought about it like that but you're right. If they used those taxes like that, it would be a moot issue.

goof2 · 05-14-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chi

I agree 100%, but would that be a bad thing?

Personally I say yes for two reasons. First I don't like the government unnecessarily taxing the shit out of something for no other reason than they can. That concept just doesn't sit well with me.

Secondly, if the government makes it too expensive the door remains open for the current black market to remain in place along with the problems it has created.

pauldun170 · 05-14-2010, 10:08 AM

If the mexican monster is coke does that mean you guys are supportive of the Government legalizing crack and sniff?
Heroin? Acid?

As for just setting up lasers and fucking At-At's at the Mexican border (maybe atomic powered whack-o-mole robots for the tunnel digger traffic) does that mean we are tearing up NAFTA?

dubbs · 05-14-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

If the mexican monster is coke does that mean you guys are supportive of the Government legalizing crack and sniff?
Heroin? Acid?

As for just setting up lasers and fucking At-At's at the Mexican border (maybe atomic powered whack-o-mole robots for the tunnel digger traffic) does that mean we are tearing up NAFTA?

Yes, I'd say legalize everything.. Cartel's would be a thing of the past..

People do it anyway and pay Criminals.. not much different than paying our government.. lol.. Maybe it will keep them from hiking up taxes in the future..

Realistically I think it's going to start off slowly with weed, then work its way down the line.. I doubt heroin will ever be legal, but at least clean needles should be readily available to stop the spread of diseases.

goof2 · 05-14-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dubbs

Tobacco isn't that expensive (in most areas) and neither is alcohol.. Why would weed be so much different?

I suppose expensive is a relative term and each person's definition will be different. Just don't be surprised when a dime bag costs $30 for no other reason than it has a tax stamp on it.

Rider · 05-14-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

If the mexican monster is coke does that mean you guys are supportive of the Government legalizing crack and sniff?
Heroin? Acid?

As for just setting up lasers and fucking At-At's at the Mexican border (maybe atomic powered whack-o-mole robots for the tunnel digger traffic) does that mean we are tearing up NAFTA?

No just legalize the natural occurring drugs, weed and shrooms...

The other chemically altered substances can stay illegal.

dubbs · 05-14-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by goof2

I suppose expensive is a relative term and each person's definition will be different. Just don't be surprised when a dime bag costs $30 for no other reason than it has a tax stamp on it.

The thing is these prices are a result of the DEA taking HUGE amounts of the supply and it being illegal. Once there are huge fields of this shit, it will probably cost 2.50 for a pack of 20 joints.. then like a 4-5$ tax. Seems reasonable to me..

the chi · 05-14-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by goof2

I suppose expensive is a relative term and each person's definition will be different. Just don't be surprised when a dime bag costs $30 for no other reason than it has a tax stamp on it.

Just out of curiousity, what does one cost now?

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Originally Posted by Rider

No just legalize the natural occurring drugs, weed and shrooms...

The other chemically altered substances can stay illegal.

Thats not a bad way to look at it...if we look at history, are there any reports of Native Americans or settlers abusing Peyote or shrooms?

dubbs · 05-14-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chi

Just out of curiousity, what does one cost now?

Depends on what you get.. just like Marlboros or Pall Malls.. Cheap shit.. 10$.. Mid grade - 15$.. Good Shit - 20$

To put it in perspective.. i think you may be able to squeeze 3 joints out of it.. depending on how you roll em..