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Old 08-11-2009, 12:03 AM   #1
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Default 101.5 mpg on a Ninja 250

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You can see my initial post about my bike HERE. Its a stock 2003 Ninja 250 with changed gearing (from 14/45 [3.21] to 15/39 [2.60]). Even the carb jetting is stock. The only other change is the tires. Stock, the bike comes with 100/80/16 fronts, and 120/80/16 rears. My bike has 100/90/16 fronts and 130/90/16 rears.

As of 05/15/09, my previous mpg average for 1 year was 71.9mpg. As i had stated in the post linked above, its my commuter bike for which most of the time was spent on the Garden State Parkway (65mph limit) doing 75mph on average. I always position myself in a tuck any time i am over 45-50mph.

After reading about techniques that the currently successful hypermilers are using, I was curious to see how my little Ninja's fuel efficiency would improve if i applied these techniques to my every day riding style. So i did... Heres the log since then. (Note: i started these techniques after the 5/15/09 fill up, so the data after that date reflects the effects of these techniques.)



Tank ending on 5/21/09: 8% mpg gain from average. 77.7mpg
The first thing i started to do was slow my highway speed down to 65mph. I had just began to attempt some very minor EOC events... it takes time to "learn" your commute route and to spot the correct EOC initiation points, as well as learning how far the vehicle can travel during EOC. Im sure you hypermilers know what i mean.

Tank ending on 5/28/09: 19% mpg gain from average. 85.7mpg
On this tank, i did not exceed 60mph on the highway. My EOC'ing was more pronounced as i had gained more experience with it on my bike. I also limited my in-town speed to 5mph under the speed limit, no less than 30mph, in the highest gear. Acceleration, as is my riding style with this bike, was minimal.

I was ecstatic!! I could not believe the improvement at this point. While it was a significant improvement, I still wanted to go through another tank using the same techniques in order to validate the improvements

Tank ending on 6/7/09: 31% mpg gain from average. 94.1mpg!
Inspired by my previous tank's improvement, i pretty much tried as hard as i could to EOC as much as was realistically necessary. I still did not exceed 60mph on the highway, however sometimes i would slow to 55mph if there was no one close behind me (even so, other drivers didn't seem to mind and calmly passed me). In-town speed was still 5mph under the speed limit.

I would like to note that my fill up routine is very uniform in that i always fill up to where the gas is touching a metal rim below the gas cap assembly. To make things even better, all 3 of these fill ups were at the EXACT same fuel pump.

PS: If you happen to live in New Jersey and see a yellow Ninja 250 driving at or a little below the speed limit, with the rider crouched down as much as possible, usually carrying a book bag, please feel free to honk at me and/or give me the thumbs up if you see me!

Tank ending on 06-15-09: 92.8mpg

Sooooo close to 100mpg!!!

Tank ending on 06-22-09: 101.5mpg!!

I did it!!!!!!! My bike went 391 miles before hitting reserve!!! Its crazy! I told my dad how I am now getting over 90mpg and he asked me whether my odometer was incorrect or not.

As a side note: The gas in this tank (from 6-15 to 6-22) was exxon 87.... it must have been bad gas because any more than 40-50% throttle and my bike would start pinging. It didn't bother me much though since i rarely ever use that much throttle.

Tank ending on 06-30-09: 97.8 mpg!

Was stuck in traffic on the highway a few times because of people rushing down to the shore. Tried my best to EOC and DWB in traffic as much as i could, but i think it took a little hit in mpg from that.

Tank ending on 07-10-2009: 95.9 mpg!

I did an experiment on this tank. I had been experiencing lower back pain from tucking down alot. On this tank, i sat up comfortably and never crouched and I still was able to achieve over 90mpg. It appears that 55mph is a sweet spot as far as aerodynamics go. I am very happy that i was able to achieve this number without crouching. Further tanks will confirm the success of EOC and 55mph maximum cruising on motorcycles (any motor vehicle for that matter).

Tank ending on 07-17-09: 91.6 mpg

Still sitting up comfortably and still achieving over 90mpg. I had done a 60mile trip at 65mph during this tank because i was pressed for time getting to class. That may have dropped my MPG off a little bit. More to come!

Tank ending on 07-24-09: 90.4 mpg

This tank, my mpg was down because i was a little pissed off at a driver on the parkway and had to catch up to him (he was doing 90) so i could give him a piece of my mind. Doing over 90mph on this bike requires WOT. I was doing 55mph in the right lane and he came flying up behind me and nearly clipped me when passing me.... i literally felt the turbulence on my leg coming off his front bumper. He was like a foot away from me. Turns out, it looked like he was a retired trooper or something (he had the NJ Trooper shield on his side window)..... but since when does that give them the right to drive like an idiot? I still yelled and screamed at the guy.
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:15 AM   #2
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That sounds like a good way to get killed in Jersey... I know I would be pissed at some kook doing 5-15mph UNDER the speed limit. Especially with all the accelerate and coast crap "hypermilers" do.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:23 AM   #3
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I love how he says he caught up and yelled at the guy...

ya fuck'n moron... that's a good way to get caught in a loosing battle of road rage... ESPECIALLY on a 250. it's one thing to do it on a 600 or 1000 where you can loose him quickly... but odds are that car will out accelerate a 250 when you're starting at 70-90.

and not sure how he caught up to the guy anyways if the guy was doing 90... it'd take forever for the 250 to get up there...
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:32 AM   #4
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i cant fucking stand hypermilers.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:49 AM   #5
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I can't remember but do the older 250s take speed and odometer readings from the front wheel or the countershaft? Just wondering since that would make a difference in "perceived" mpg. Also, his tire change will also make a difference in his odometer readings. To be honest, I thought that this was a joke and that was the punchline. I don't have the math skills to calculate how big a difference his tire swap will make but it's probably significant.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:54 AM   #6
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I can't remember but do the older 250s take speed and odometer readings from the front wheel or the countershaft? Just wondering since that would make a difference in "perceived" mpg. Also, his tire change will also make a difference in his odometer readings. To be honest, I thought that this was a joke and that was the punchline. I don't have the math skills to calculate how big a difference his tire swap will make but it's probably significant.
prety sure its the front wheel, now would the sprocket change affect the odometer as well?

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Old 08-11-2009, 10:57 AM   #7
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prety sure its the front wheel, now would the sprocket change affect the odometer as well?

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Not if it gets the the speed from the front wheel. He did change the gearing quite a bit. So I'm sure that's where most of the fuel savings is from. He has no bottom end with that gearing though.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:08 AM   #8
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Not if it gets the the speed from the front wheel. He did change the gearing quite a bit. So I'm sure that's where most of the fuel savings is from. He has no bottom end with that gearing though.
I can't imagine how ridiculously sluggish that thing must be after changing the gearing like that.

And did he say he was going 30 in top gear?
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:14 AM   #9
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Not if it gets the the speed from the front wheel. He did change the gearing quite a bit. So I'm sure that's where most of the fuel savings is from. He has no bottom end with that gearing though.
Yea it comes from the front but you guys are very correct in the sluggishness dept! Man, why not just buy a scooter and get it over with? If your only concern is gas mileage....
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Yea it comes from the front but you guys are very correct in the sluggishness dept! Man, why not just buy a scooter and get it over with? If your only concern is gas mileage....
Well, if he is getting 101 mpg on the vehicle he already has, why buy a different one?
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