UFC 141 Lesnar Vs Overeem

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Just calling like I see it... Lesnar was beaten before he stepped into the cage... Not sure what was going in physically, but mentally he wasn't there... Maybe his illness, maybe he realized he was in over his head... Who knows... Either way he got his ass handed to him...

Aw you're no fun.... Come on where are all the guys that called for a Lesnar walk away?

[Triple]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Aw you're no fun.... Come on where are all the guys that called for a Lesnar walk away?

I have never liked Lesnar. That said, the Lesnar that smashed Mir at UFC 100 probably would have done the same to Overeem last night. That was his last impressive performance, and not coincidentally, his last fight before dealing with diverticulitis. He always talks the talk pre-fight, but in the cage his confidence hasn't been the same since July 2009.

I'm glad Overeem took it as easily as he did, but I don't think he'll take the title from dos Santos.

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Triple

I have never liked Lesnar. That said, the Lesnar that smashed Mir at UFC 100 probably would have done the same to Overeem last night. That was his last impressive performance, and not coincidentally, his last fight before dealing with diverticulitis. He always talks the talk pre-fight, but in the cage his confidence hasn't been the same since July 2009.

I'm glad Overeem took it as easily as he did, but I don't think he'll take the title from dos Santos.

I'm surprised Lesnar even came back. I've seen people who deal with diverticulitis and it really kicks your ass (and removes sections of it). Having a foot of colon removed and having to shit in a bag while you recover doesn't seem like something that would motivate anyone to leave the bed, let alone jump back into MMA.

[Triple]

In other news, Fedor beat the shit out of Ishii this morning.

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Triple

In other news, Fedor beat the shit out of Ishii this morning.

Snore. Fedor's prime is long past. He's back to fighting chumps. What a surprise. Maybe next he can fight Ken Shamrock or Tank Abbott.

[Triple]

Originally Posted by Corey

Snore. Fedor's prime is long past. He's back to fighting chumps. What a surprise. Maybe next he can fight Ken Shamrock or Tank Abbott.

Agree that he's past his prime, but I believe today's Fedor would beat today's Lesnar.

Fedor's management screwed his chances with the UFC a long time ago. If he wants to stay active, who else is there for him to fight? Monson has beaten some of the UFC's top guys in the past and many consider Ishii Japan's only legitimate prospect at LHW and HW. Lumping either guy in with Shamrock or Abbott is a stretch.

Ishii looked TINY this morning. Probably due to his ambitions at LHW, but he looked 30 pounds lighter than when he beat LeBanner last NYE.

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Triple

Agree that he's past his prime, but I believe today's Fedor would beat today's Lesnar.

Fedor's management screwed his chances with the UFC a long time ago. If he wants to stay active, who else is there for him to fight? Monson has beaten some of the UFC's top guys in the past and many consider Ishii Japan's only legitimate prospect at LHW and HW. Lumping either guy in with Shamrock or Abbott is a stretch.

Ishii looked TINY this morning. Probably due to his ambitions at LHW, but he looked 30 pounds lighter than when he beat LeBanner last NYE.

Agreed that his management ruined his UFC shot. I think they did more damage than that. They've used Fedor's name to pad their bank accounts at every given opportunity and squandered any chance of turning him into a hugely bankable name in the process. They've tarnished his reputation by steering him away from true competition in pursuit of their own financial gains. I'd almost be willing to bet that Fedor doesn't have the option of quitting, even if he wants to. M1 has him by the balls and will use him until he's of no value. Fedor may still be tough, but he's falling way behind the pack by not fighting competitive fighters. Ishii may be a lot of things, but he's not UFC caliber, probably not even Strikeforce. The heavyweight division is weak everywhere, but the further from UFC you get, the more the talent drops off. Monson had his day, but he's in the same boat that Tim Sylvia and Andre Arlovski were in when they fought Fedor. They were past their prime and on the downside of name recognition. M1 will continue to mine those opportunities to keep Fedor as financial relevant as they can for as long as possible, and the mystique of Fedor will continue to disappear.