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Old 11-13-2009, 06:54 PM   #21
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I'm with you on this. A skilled welder, sure. But a backyard hack, no thanks.


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Eggzacharry. Just a tiny bit off, and the rake/trail, and worse parallelism of the forks to the frame can be seriously 'off'. And without some precision 'jigging', it WILL be off. On top of that, good weld penetration on aluminum can be a tricky thing, even for an experienced welder, especially without a good hi-frequency DC inverter (welder). I'd guess it was likely done by an amateur, with with a 'hobby' wire-feed welder, and lined-up by eyeball - no way in HELL I would trust it.

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Isnt aluminum very tricky to weld in the first place?

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Yes - and under/over-penetration (giggety) is hard to control without a good rig (pulsed-DC MIG or hi-freq AC TIG) & knowing what you're doing.
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Yes, any hobbyist probably wont have the skills or equipment to do it on their own and do it correctly. Aluminum is very tricky to weld, and most hobbyist wont be able to weld it without warping it. It also probably wont be structurally sound.

I really wouldnt have a problem with it if it were a cruiser with a steel frame though.
Warping will be the least of his problems. Probably half of amateur welders don't know how to read the puddle correctly to make sure they are in the correct heat range. Did he have the correct fillets for a structurally sound weld? How much oversize did he cut the "new" piece to allow for shrinkage?

I just hope it's his own bike and his life insurance is paid up.
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Old 11-13-2009, 11:21 PM   #22
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NO. Btw the guy is an idiot.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:53 PM   #23
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Yeah, I'm with most of the others. A steel-frame chopper? If the weld looked like it was done by somebody who knew WTF they were doing, probably. A powerful, short-wheelbase bike with an aluminum frame? No way.

Personally, I'd just sell the extra parts, and use the money to buy a legit bike with an engine/transmission failure.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:04 PM   #24
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turns out dude is basically gonna cut an oblong piece outta the neck that goes around VIN #, and cut out similar shape on the "good" frame, and weld the good # into the hole left by the "bad" vin, and clean it up.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:08 PM   #25
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Depends on the welder, I would trust some welders over the original weld.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:13 PM   #26
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Yeah - that will look legit......

Wonder how that first inspection will go?
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:49 PM   #27
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and they are also assembled on a jig and welded for precise angle, vs a hack w/ a grinder and welding rig in a backyard.

how can you be sure the angles are correct afterwords and the weld quality, hell zuki had to call back frames cuz they flubbed.
Don't be such a fucking pussy.

Jigs. Fuck that shit.

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Old 11-16-2009, 02:31 PM   #28
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turns out dude is basically gonna cut an oblong piece outta the neck that goes around VIN #, and cut out similar shape on the "good" frame, and weld the good # into the hole left by the "bad" vin, and clean it up.
Yeah, like the 2 cuts are going to match exactly. And yeah, like someone is not going to notice what he did.

Sounds like a bunch of losers on that board.......Houston Imports? Yeah that's gonna be quality peeps. BTW what's a Trans Am doing on that board?
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:52 PM   #29
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Yeah, like the 2 cuts are going to match exactly. And yeah, like someone is not going to notice what he did.

Sounds like a bunch of losers on that board.......Houston Imports? Yeah that's gonna be quality peeps. BTW what's a Trans Am doing on that board?
the import is the driver.
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the import is the driver.
but "import" assumes someone actually wanted to bring him over
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