Old man trail bike question - Page 2

BobTheBiker · 02-21-2010, 10:28 PM

get an XR100. no shortage of power, and its pretty damn user friendly. I had the XR80, which is the same bike with a smaller motor, they handle GREAT with the monoshock setup, but the front brake is drum, which IMO is lacking for high performance stopping that I've grown used to over time. an XR200 is another good choice. notice I'm ONLY mentioning honda bikes? its because in dirt bikes, they're EXCELLENT machines.

Avatard · 02-21-2010, 11:32 PM

4T? Ugh. I mean; I know I am talking about fulfilling the role of the American equivalent to the family pack mule...and I get that whole "Honda comes real close to being a sealed unit", "an appliance" thing...but 4 stroke?

I dunno man, in my head, dirt bikes go ring ding, end of discussion.

6doublefive321 · 02-21-2010, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avatard

4T? Ugh. I mean; I know I am talking about fulfilling the role of the American equivalent to the family pack mule...and I get that whole "Honda comes real close to being a sealed unit", "an appliance" thing...but 4 stroke?

I dunno man, in my head, dirt bikes go ring ding, end of discussion.

Don't give in! Stick to your 2t guns. We don't need no stinking valve train.

Avatard · 02-22-2010, 01:24 AM

http://cnj.craigslist.org/mcy/1610456506.html

Two shocks, two strokes. No waiting.

...And it's a Honda.

OTB · 02-22-2010, 07:52 AM

Mark this on your calandar; 'cause I agree with Avatard....gimme a 2T for the dirt any old day. I have two 2strokes, a TS250 ('73) and a TS125 ('75), and they are a blast to ride, dual shocks and limited travel and all. Unless your pounding the whoops most of that stuff is just marketing fluff. As far as maintenance, I have 8000 (dirt) miles on the the original top end of the 250; it uses oil injection, always starts on the first kick (Yes, it has to be kick-started, big deal). Service takes about 1/2 hr every season; it's light, snappy and fun to ride.......what else do you want?....(ohh, and I bought it for $500 and haven't put another $100 into it in six years of hard use, but this year I'll treat it to some tires).

defector · 02-22-2010, 08:06 AM

The saying when I was a kid was "2 strokes truck, and 4 strokes suck". I am obviously biased since I grew up on 2t, but I asked my kids who split time equally with both.

My son prefers the snap of a 'smoker. My daughter prefers the thumper.

TYEster · 02-22-2010, 08:10 AM

I must be the start of the new generation here then... Didn't realize there were still this many fans of the 2smoke. No wonder they keep making them

However it seems most of the new trail bikes are 4s.

defector · 02-22-2010, 03:33 PM

I thought KTM, Yamaha, and Kawasaki all had at least one 'smoker in their 2011 lineup? Maybe that was the 2010 model year?

The single most intimidating / hardest to ride (fast) bike I have ever ridden was my brothers worked over CR500.

That thing still gives me cold sweats.

Rider · 02-22-2010, 03:42 PM

My son used to have a Yamaha RT100. It was a dual rear shock but it was fun for him to ride when was 7-9. The guy we sold it to just wanted it for putting around on his property. You can pick those things up in the 4-600 range. I think they were made until 2006 or so.

OTB · 02-22-2010, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TYEster

I must be the start of the new generation here then... Didn't realize there were still this many fans of the 2smoke. No wonder they keep making them

However it seems most of the new trail bikes are 4s.

Popularity had nothing to do with it....EPA and CARB (California Air Resources Board) killed the two-strokes, first on the street, them in the dirt, as pollution regs tightened up.

02-21-2010, 11:32 PM	#12
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	4T? Ugh. I mean; I know I am talking about fulfilling the role of the American equivalent to the family pack mule...and I get that whole "Honda comes real close to being a sealed unit", "an appliance" thing...but 4 stroke? I dunno man, in my head, dirt bikes go ring ding, end of discussion. __________________ Insert free thought here.

02-22-2010, 01:24 AM	#14
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	http://cnj.craigslist.org/mcy/1610456506.html Two shocks, two strokes. No waiting. ...And it's a Honda. __________________ Insert free thought here.

02-22-2010, 07:52 AM	#15
OTB The Man Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CrabTown USA Moto: 00 Bimota DB4 Posts: 823	Mark this on your calandar; 'cause I agree with Avatard....gimme a 2T for the dirt any old day. I have two 2strokes, a TS250 ('73) and a TS125 ('75), and they are a blast to ride, dual shocks and limited travel and all. Unless your pounding the whoops most of that stuff is just marketing fluff. As far as maintenance, I have 8000 (dirt) miles on the the original top end of the 250; it uses oil injection, always starts on the first kick (Yes, it has to be kick-started, big deal). Service takes about 1/2 hr every season; it's light, snappy and fun to ride.......what else do you want?....(ohh, and I bought it for $500 and haven't put another $100 into it in six years of hard use, but this year I'll treat it to some tires). __________________ http://www.decreasingradius.net/

02-22-2010, 08:06 AM	#16
defector My balls, your chin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The desert of Az Moto: 929, SV650, YZ250 Posts: 1,917	The saying when I was a kid was "2 strokes truck, and 4 strokes suck". I am obviously biased since I grew up on 2t, but I asked my kids who split time equally with both. My son prefers the snap of a 'smoker. My daughter prefers the thumper. __________________ Reading this signature may give you special powers, including the ability to run through walls. You should try it immediately.

02-22-2010, 03:33 PM	#18
defector My balls, your chin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The desert of Az Moto: 929, SV650, YZ250 Posts: 1,917	I thought KTM, Yamaha, and Kawasaki all had at least one 'smoker in their 2011 lineup? Maybe that was the 2010 model year? The single most intimidating / hardest to ride (fast) bike I have ever ridden was my brothers worked over CR500. That thing still gives me cold sweats. __________________ Reading this signature may give you special powers, including the ability to run through walls. You should try it immediately.

02-21-2010, 10:28 PM	#11
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	get an XR100. no shortage of power, and its pretty damn user friendly. I had the XR80, which is the same bike with a smaller motor, they handle GREAT with the monoshock setup, but the front brake is drum, which IMO is lacking for high performance stopping that I've grown used to over time. an XR200 is another good choice. notice I'm ONLY mentioning honda bikes? its because in dirt bikes, they're EXCELLENT machines.

02-22-2010, 08:10 AM	#17
TYEster With MORE TYEstosterone Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: TX Moto: '12 KX450F / 08 YZ250F #512 / 07 KX65 #1 Posts: 1,429	I must be the start of the new generation here then... Didn't realize there were still this many fans of the 2smoke. No wonder they keep making them However it seems most of the new trail bikes are 4s.

02-22-2010, 03:42 PM	#19
Rider Moto GP Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12,156	My son used to have a Yamaha RT100. It was a dual rear shock but it was fun for him to ride when was 7-9. The guy we sold it to just wanted it for putting around on his property. You can pick those things up in the 4-600 range. I think they were made until 2006 or so.