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10-03-2013, 08:19 PM | #1 | |
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If the fuckin republicans push this shit too far and then get voted out of office and then we get gun laws forced on us, I am going to be fuckin pissed. You aren't going to change Obamacare right now, give it the fuck up.... What you are going to get, is get voted out of office and then we get all of the Democrat wet dreams put in place like they did with Obamacare thanks to Bushy...
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10-03-2013, 09:25 PM | #2 | |
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10-04-2013, 08:50 AM | #3 |
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My insurance is actually really good, much better than what my Dad receives in Canada. Of course he has American insurance that blows mine out of the water as well for when he is in the States. If I get thrown into Obamacare, I will be pissed.
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10-04-2013, 09:09 AM | #4 | |
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Your dad pays a fraction of what you do, for what he gets here by default. A supplemental health plan would easily bring him up to your level, while still paying less than what you do. You could have even better than that, for less than what you pay now, if your system was set up right (the way that ours should be).
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10-04-2013, 09:27 AM | #5 | |
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He pays similar for his Canada coverage that I do, prescription prices are very similar because my plan has a max for uncovered medication that I cannot pay over if no generic is available. His high management level coverage in the States just crushes anything I could get as a worker bee without spending a small fortune. Obamacare doesn't really bother me too much though. The only thing that I would like to see go is the individual mandate. That should of been shot down by the supreme court. Last edited by Trip; 10-04-2013 at 09:33 AM.. |
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10-04-2013, 11:02 AM | #6 | |
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The best way to handle universal health care would be to take a basic rate from everyone who can afford it, for a basic level of care, then allow supplemental insurance to be added over and above that. The basic level of care would be overseen by a single payer system. Similar systems exist up here for auto insurance, and they seem to work reasonably well.
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10-06-2013, 12:37 PM | #7 |
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10-04-2013, 08:04 AM | #8 | |
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This is my biggest fear. It's over....we're already fooked (Obamacare) so stop showboating! In just a few months time we'll ALL see how bad of an idea this package is, and when it's grossly underfunded the whole country will turn on Obama. All they're doing now is turning straight party voters against them too.
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10-04-2013, 04:45 PM | #9 |
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I'm in the "wait and see" phase on Obamacare, but I agree with this point completely. Republicans have been mismanaging every fight they've taken on since President Obama was elected (or about a year before, if you count McCain's pathetic excuse for a campaign). It's like the '08 election took the brains out of their sails.
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10-04-2013, 07:19 PM | #10 | |
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