Sportbikes are not beginner bikes

NeonspeedRT · 03-11-2008, 10:36 AM

There is an exception to every rule. As a general rule of thumb and in a perfect world, every rider would start on a small bike and work their way up.

Now does that always happen? No. I do know of some riders who have started out on 600cc or 1000cc sportbikes and became great riders. Of course being a MSF instructor, I also deal with at least two or three students every weekend who come to the class with a brand new "GSXR1000ZX10RR" as their first bike and have already wrecked it. Sometimes more then once.

I always tell students, would you buy your 16 year old child a twin turbo Dodge Viper for a first car? No? Then why would you want a "GSXR1000ZX10RR" for your first bike?

I really wish we had a stacked riding system like they do overseas. Where you have to have a 250cc for a year before you can move to a 500cc. Then you have to have that for a year before you can move up. I think that would prevent alot of accidents.

Sure the riders maturity level has alot to do with how well they learn on a sportbike. But if a rider gets into a panic situation and accidently rolls on the throttle in a corner on a 500cc bike, the bike is going to react alot differently then a 1000cc bike in that same situation.

Someonce once told me a 600cc sportbike wants to kill you. A 1000cc sportbike will try to kill you.

azoomm · 03-11-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonspeedRT

I really wish we had a stacked riding system like they do overseas. Where you have to have a 250cc for a year before you can move to a 500cc. Then you have to have that for a year before you can move up. I think that would prevent alot of accidents.

Tiered licensing FTW

You are absolutely correct about the maturity of the rider.

And, what I tell people... traffic is already out there trying to inadvertently kill you. Why help them?

marko138 · 03-11-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

Tiered licensing FTW

You are absolutely correct about the maturity of the rider.

And, what I tell people... traffic is already out there trying to inadvertently kill you. Why help them?

I'm with ya. We need tiered licensing.

Rider · 03-11-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138

I'm with ya. We need tiered licensing.

Where do I sign the petition?

marko138 · 03-11-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider

Where do I sign the petition?

If only it was that easy.

Cutty72 · 03-12-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138

I'm with ya. We need tiered licensing.

My opinion, it would just make for more people riding illegaly.

I agree it should be done... but how to enforce it?

Mr Lefty · 03-12-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

My opinion, it would just make for more people riding illegaly.

I agree it should be done... but how to enforce it?

it'd be like insurance... you'd still have those riding with out it... but it would force most to comply.

DLIT · 03-12-2008, 09:17 PM

It would be hard to force people to do this now. We haven't had one forever. There would have to be soooo many people under the grandfather clause, it wouldn't be right to enforce it. It'd be tough to implement a tieredlicense law in the states. Although, I agree that we should have one.

Switch · 04-21-2008, 07:17 PM

I was born knowing how to ride.

This article is nonsense.

Mr Lefty · 04-21-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrah Arrah

I was born knowing how to ride.

This article is nonsense.

came out with a one piece on holding your helmet look'n for the bike huh

03-11-2008, 10:36 AM	#1
NeonspeedRT At Large Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jax, FL Moto: 2005 R1 Posts: 678	There is an exception to every rule. As a general rule of thumb and in a perfect world, every rider would start on a small bike and work their way up. Now does that always happen? No. I do know of some riders who have started out on 600cc or 1000cc sportbikes and became great riders. Of course being a MSF instructor, I also deal with at least two or three students every weekend who come to the class with a brand new "GSXR1000ZX10RR" as their first bike and have already wrecked it. Sometimes more then once. I always tell students, would you buy your 16 year old child a twin turbo Dodge Viper for a first car? No? Then why would you want a "GSXR1000ZX10RR" for your first bike? I really wish we had a stacked riding system like they do overseas. Where you have to have a 250cc for a year before you can move to a 500cc. Then you have to have that for a year before you can move up. I think that would prevent alot of accidents. Sure the riders maturity level has alot to do with how well they learn on a sportbike. But if a rider gets into a panic situation and accidently rolls on the throttle in a corner on a 500cc bike, the bike is going to react alot differently then a 1000cc bike in that same situation. Someonce once told me a 600cc sportbike wants to kill you. A 1000cc sportbike will try to kill you. __________________ MSF Rider Coach Motorcycle Training Institue Inc "Riding a motorcycle is like playing chess. Anyone can learn the moves, but it takes a lifetime to master the game."

03-12-2008, 09:17 PM	#8
DLIT Clit Commander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Las Vegas Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Posts: 4,189	It would be hard to force people to do this now. We haven't had one forever. There would have to be soooo many people under the grandfather clause, it wouldn't be right to enforce it. It'd be tough to implement a tieredlicense law in the states. Although, I agree that we should have one. __________________ Dress for the crash. Not the ride.

04-21-2008, 07:17 PM	#9
Switch dadbod Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East TN Posts: 1,215	I was born knowing how to ride. This article is nonsense.