1000cc motogp bikes? - Page 4

marko138 · 01-17-2010, 12:27 PM

Anyone here think going back to 1000cc will help Spies? I do. He's mentioned how much different the 800 is from his Superbike. The 1000 has to be closer to what he's used to. I think he'll still be competetive on the 800.

Amber Lamps · 01-17-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138

Anyone here think going back to 1000cc will help Spies? I do. He's mentioned how much different the 800 is from his Superbike. The 1000 has to be closer to what he's used to. I think he'll still be competetive on the 800.

I don't know. IMHO the 800cc bike has more power and weighs less than a WSBK bike... I'm not sure how even more power will make him "comfortable". I think the differences are in the chassis and the electronics.

marko138 · 01-17-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

I don't know. IMHO the 800cc bike has more power and weighs less than a WSBK bike... I'm not sure how even more power will make him "comfortable". I think the differences are in the chassis and the electronics.

Spies claims the 800s don't have much torque.

Amber Lamps · 01-17-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138

Spies claims the 800s don't have much torque.

Hmmm... I didn't know that. I wonder what the dyno says? I wonder if it's not because of the electronics? I find it really hard to believe that a MotoGp engine makes less of anything when compared to a WSBK engine. Unless it's on purpose.

smileyman · 01-17-2010, 12:45 PM

Power is all about control or traction and how its delivered. Ride a 250 ninja on ice and tell if 30 hp is too much.

The heavier WSB bikes have full electronics and sticky but spec rubber. Their HP can be tuned to within 10-15 hp of a moto GP bike but it gets uncontrolable at that level.

the GP bike has less torque to upset their really great tires but more hp and electronics in play can seem easier to control.

Dave · 01-20-2010, 03:30 PM

we got no engines do we ted?!

smileyman · 01-20-2010, 03:34 PM

Hayden got boned twice in practice and qualifying, and in at least 2 races last year. Any hard luck at all is going to effect the results each weekend and for the championship.

marko138 · 01-20-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Hayden got boned twice in practice and qualifying, and in at least 2 races last year. Any hard luck at all is going to effect the results each weekend and for the championship.

This season may be rough.

Rider · 01-20-2010, 03:43 PM

Yeah I can see Depuniet only going 3 races deep this year.

smileyman · 01-20-2010, 03:49 PM

Riders will no doubt choose safer electronics settings and probably pick and choose their passes carefully. All but Depuniet who will go all out till he cant go anymore...Smooth riders that stay outta trouble may outpace the aliens. Especially if the only go a few lapse of practice to save the engine. The extra track time will mean nothing against riders who have good setups and experience for prior years tho

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smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Power is all about control or traction and how its delivered. Ride a 250 ninja on ice and tell if 30 hp is too much. The heavier WSB bikes have full electronics and sticky but spec rubber. Their HP can be tuned to within 10-15 hp of a moto GP bike but it gets uncontrolable at that level. the GP bike has less torque to upset their really great tires but more hp and electronics in play can seem easier to control. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

01-20-2010, 03:34 PM	#7
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Hayden got boned twice in practice and qualifying, and in at least 2 races last year. Any hard luck at all is going to effect the results each weekend and for the championship. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

01-20-2010, 03:49 PM	#10
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Riders will no doubt choose safer electronics settings and probably pick and choose their passes carefully. All but Depuniet who will go all out till he cant go anymore...Smooth riders that stay outta trouble may outpace the aliens. Especially if the only go a few lapse of practice to save the engine. The extra track time will mean nothing against riders who have good setups and experience for prior years tho __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

01-20-2010, 03:30 PM	#6
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	we got no engines do we ted?!

01-20-2010, 03:43 PM	#9
Rider Moto GP Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12,156	Yeah I can see Depuniet only going 3 races deep this year.