ZX-14 shock on the SV - Page 3

Particle Man · 06-07-2010, 10:16 AM

I'll take a look during lunch and see what the sizes and such are and then pull what I can on the GSXR internals

I went for a ride this morning before everyone got up and it's amazing the difference with the rear shock.

Amber Lamps, I think I'm good for now (I'd rather not do the full conversion to the GSXR front because I don't want to mess with the speedometer and stuff) but thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it.

smileyman · 06-07-2010, 11:17 AM

We did the full GSXR750 on our endurance SV complete with new rim and some steering head machine work and guess what? Our Race Tech equipped stock forks were preferred by all.

Another plus on the race tech is go to their website, input your weight, riding style and use, and it will give you free recommendations on spring rate and fluid...Free.

Particle Man · 06-07-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Another plus on the race tech is go to their website, input your weight, riding style and use, and it will give you free recommendations on spring rate and fluid...Free.

Yep - that's where I got the .90 and 15W spring/oil combination

tommymac · 06-07-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

We did the full GSXR750 on our endurance SV complete with new rim and some steering head machine work and guess what? Our Race Tech equipped stock forks were preferred by all.

Another plus on the race tech is go to their website, input your weight, riding style and use, and it will give you free recommendations on spring rate and fluid...Free.

I think the sonic site does it as well.

Switch · 06-07-2010, 11:19 AM

Particle Man, I would recommend going with the emulator kit I linked to.

I know you say you don't ride hard, but its not just about that.

The suspension on the SV is done after about 5k miles. It's also a safety issue. Wishy washy suspension leads to wishy washy braking and an uncertainty of what your bike is doing.

When you give input, you want your bike to respond in a predictable manner. The emulators are in no way close to a "race" suspension. Just some food for thought.

Particle Man · 06-07-2010, 11:22 AM

Thanks dude. It's definitely on the agenda.

ontwo · 06-07-2010, 12:10 PM

Glad you finally got it in. Good luck with the front end

Homeslice · 06-07-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man

I didn't want to stiffen it up too much at once with springs and oil... You really think 20W is a better idea?

IMO, oil is more important than springs, because springs only control dive......But oil controls both dive AND rise/float.

As for the emulators, they are just a spring-loaded valve that pops open if you hit a pothole. So it theoretically improves the ride and traction over bumps, but they don't affect rebound damping, so your bike will rise/rebound just as much as it did before. Most SV owners "in the know" braise shut the rebound hole in their damper rod. In fact, Traxxion sells a damper rod with the hole braised shut, but you could do it yourself if you want.

Particle Man · 06-07-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Most SV owners "in the know" braise shut the rebound hole in their damper rod. In fact, Traxxion sells a damper rod with the hole braised shut, but you could do it yourself if you want.

hmmm, now there's an idea...

Homeslice · 06-07-2010, 01:17 PM

Forgot to mention, doing emulators requires you to drill bigger holes in the damping rod to free up the compression damping (since the emulator restricts compression). Then you have to set the spring tension on the emulator which determines when it pops open. The problem is, I found it hard to get a good balance between the two. If you don't like it you'll have to open up the forks again and dig the emulators out and adjust them. That is why the Gixxer front end is so popular, because they have damping adjusters, not to mention USD forks so there is less unspring weight. Better brakes as well.

I would just do the springs & oil and see how you like it. Doing anything else to those forks is more effort than it's worth, IMO.

06-07-2010, 10:16 AM	#21
Particle Man Custom User Title Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central NY Moto: 2003 SV650S Posts: 14,959	I'll take a look during lunch and see what the sizes and such are and then pull what I can on the GSXR internals I went for a ride this morning before everyone got up and it's amazing the difference with the rear shock. Amber Lamps, I think I'm good for now (I'd rather not do the full conversion to the GSXR front because I don't want to mess with the speedometer and stuff) but thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it. __________________ I'm not "fat." I'm "Enlarged to show texture." Handle every stressful situation like a DOG: If you can't eat it or hump it, pi$$ on it & walk away.

06-07-2010, 11:17 AM	#22
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	We did the full GSXR750 on our endurance SV complete with new rim and some steering head machine work and guess what? Our Race Tech equipped stock forks were preferred by all. Another plus on the race tech is go to their website, input your weight, riding style and use, and it will give you free recommendations on spring rate and fluid...Free. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

06-07-2010, 11:19 AM	#25
Switch dadbod Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East TN Posts: 1,215	Particle Man, I would recommend going with the emulator kit I linked to. I know you say you don't ride hard, but its not just about that. The suspension on the SV is done after about 5k miles. It's also a safety issue. Wishy washy suspension leads to wishy washy braking and an uncertainty of what your bike is doing. When you give input, you want your bike to respond in a predictable manner. The emulators are in no way close to a "race" suspension. Just some food for thought. __________________ It's fine.

06-07-2010, 11:22 AM	#26
Particle Man Custom User Title Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central NY Moto: 2003 SV650S Posts: 14,959	Thanks dude. It's definitely on the agenda. __________________ I'm not "fat." I'm "Enlarged to show texture." Handle every stressful situation like a DOG: If you can't eat it or hump it, pi$$ on it & walk away.

06-07-2010, 12:10 PM	#27
ontwo Designated Drinker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: shitville Moto: 2009 ZX6R Posts: 1,661	Glad you finally got it in. Good luck with the front end __________________

06-07-2010, 01:17 PM	#30
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Forgot to mention, doing emulators requires you to drill bigger holes in the damping rod to free up the compression damping (since the emulator restricts compression). Then you have to set the spring tension on the emulator which determines when it pops open. The problem is, I found it hard to get a good balance between the two. If you don't like it you'll have to open up the forks again and dig the emulators out and adjust them. That is why the Gixxer front end is so popular, because they have damping adjusters, not to mention USD forks so there is less unspring weight. Better brakes as well. I would just do the springs & oil and see how you like it. Doing anything else to those forks is more effort than it's worth, IMO.