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03-12-2008, 12:39 PM | #1 |
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What are we goingto do tonight Jimmy, Chris, Nick, Sterling, Sportinsflying, Al, and Misty?
Same thing we do every night Brian, try to take over the motorcycling world!!!!!! |
03-12-2008, 12:54 PM | #2 |
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03-13-2008, 06:27 AM | #3 |
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http://www.mtii.com/countymiamidade/miamidade.html
i did this one, it was a good course. The rider coaches were great, didn't bore you off your ass droning on and on about blah...
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03-12-2008, 01:03 PM | #4 |
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Hey no offense,I think you guys do great work,but when the Army started mandating MSF in the 80s it was bad enough. Now that states are starting to...well someone is getting rich! When I took the course it was like $30 or something,granted they didn't provide bikes or whatnot but frankly I wouldn't be surprised if the bikes were donated like drivers ed cars are. It's great advertising and can get new riders familiar with your brand. Don't get me wrong,the MSF course is a great idea,but making it mandatory reminds me of when helmet laws started. Pre-helmet laws Shoei=$100 or so,within 2 years of the law Shoei=$200-300. Maybe I'm weird but it always makes me nervous when the Gov't gives a monopoly to a certain organization and then forces the public to use said organization. Next you're gonna tell me that you have to take the course every so often to keep your "M" endorsement. If it isn't the law now,I bet there's some MSF lobbyist in the state capital greasing palms to make it so! Sorry,I'm a small gov't minded guy...
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03-12-2008, 01:42 PM | #7 |
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03-12-2008, 01:50 PM | #8 |
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Currently the MSF Basic course is the default basic riding course. Harley-Davidson has its own program that's based on the MSF curriculum (Rider's Edge) and you get to learn on the Buell Blast. It's usually more expensive than an MSF course.
MSF courses all cost differently varying from states to states. Some states subsidize the fees, some don't. Some states will fully recognize the MSF certificate (yes, you have to pass the course to get the certificate) in such that you get your cert and you go down to the Motor Vehicle Department and they waive written exam and riding test. Some states only partially recognize the MSF cert and waive the riding test, but you still have to take the written exam. Motorcycles are included, as is usually a helmet. Gloves, etc., are more of a local MSF deal. The class isn't as easy as you think. The classroom work is easy but the riding is tough because they make you learn how to ride very slowly. Any idiot can get on and twist the throttle to go fast in a straight line. When you have to manipulate the clutch, throttle, front and rear brakes to move at walking pace and do U-turns and all that crap, it ain't that easy. That is not to say that the course is really tough because it's not. Neither is it a cake walk. The MSF Basic course is but a beginner's introduction. There are other private companies that offer advanced riding courses ranging from advanced street riding (some ex-cop that does this whose name eludes me) to advanced roadracing/sport riding. Hell, there's even a wheelie school. And then there are books that you can learn and get really good tips from.
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03-12-2008, 02:04 PM | #9 | |
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I do wonder if the fact that there's no state income tax in FL affects funding for this sort of thing (i.e. why some states have subsidised programs and FL does not? ) |
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