How to hang off the bike

[Mr Lefty]

yeah it's gonna be intresting trying to apply all this... I didn't find any decent twisty's in AK till I got back from my last deployment... and they were already snow covered!...

gonna have to hit the on/off ramps in Fargo like crazy

[Trip]

When you get to the gap I will give you some pointers and follow you for a pass or two to see if I notice anything.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Trip

When you get to the gap I will give you some pointers and follow you for a pass or two to see if I notice anything.

sound good... can't fuck'n wait!

[rider76]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

sound good... can't fuck'n wait!

Trip.. you gonna meet up with Ebbs in sept?

[Mr Lefty]

yeah I'm riding up with Rae from her place in FL to Trips... a couple days after I meet up with you. i'm trying to get Drewpy to meet me in Eureka Spings, the place I was telling ya about

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by Trip

You aren't really effecting your spine, you are more or less rolling the hips around the tank. This also will get you away from that silly 90 degree from the bike knee look and more of a 45 degree angle where your knee should be. It's hard to explain in words and a lot easier to show in person. You should be all the way back in the seat and when you do this it actually kinda rolls your upper body right where it needs to be for the turn.

Yeah that's what I do... but the way you were describing it it sounded like you were keeping your pelvis right against the tank which would twist your hips a shitload. The actual hip rotation is not very much at all... I think we're on the same page.

Although my legs are a lot shorter than yours so I stick them out more to let me know where I am, ya know? Then as I lean more I let the ground push my knee up and my leg goes forward a bit.

Originally Posted by DLIT

Not if you're holding your weight with your inside foot and knees, like you should be doing.

You should have weight on both feet, not just the inside... although that is a hotly debated topic.

Weight the inside during turn in... weight both during turn, weight outside post-apex while getting on the gas... least that's what I've heard from some TD instructors.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by ceo012384

Weight the inside during turn in... weight both during turn, weight outside post-apex while getting on the gas... least that's what I've heard from some TD instructors.

Using weight on the outside rearset helps in all kinds of ways, suspension and traction on the rear tire.

[Gunther1000]

Originally Posted by Trip

When you get to the gap I will give you some pointers and follow you for a pass or two to see if I notice anything.

Well that would have been great!

[ceo012384]

Another tip: this helped me a LOT after and instructor helped me with it.

Move your butt EARLY. I move before I even start braking. As I'm rolling off the throttle, I shift my butt over. Then I get on the brakes really hard and in order to stay loose on the bars, all my pressure is against the tank with the inside of my thigh, holding me in place. (essentially I use one of my reference points to move my butt over, which makes me always do it at the right time)

Then, as I trail off the brakes all I have to do is drop my torso since I'm already in position, look through the turn, and get on the throttle

I see a lot of people at the track hopping into their hang-off position right as they are about to make their turn-in input. When you get faster, that shit doesn't fly... you're upsetting the suspension too much.

[Trip]

Every instructor I have dealt with and locals I worked with said to make your entry one fluid motion. Shifting, moving, braking, getting setup should all be one fluid motion so the suspension should only be effected once. Obviously this would take an insane amount of practice.