Okay, is this any better?

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by goof2

I seem to remember you posting a thread about a Chevelle where you were pushing back against the feedback you received. Enjoy your glass house.

Originally Posted by Avatard

Actually, I remembered that thread rather specifically as I wrote...IIRC part of the problem with my design for some was that I was "tinkering" with an iconic car that is rarely modded (unlike the Mustang), and a lot weren't comfortable with even the thought of radically customizing one....I know you love to poke me, goof, but I don't poke so easy...see, my biggest peeve is hypocrisy...so you may not find me engaged in it often enough to truly satisfy your lust to bust my chops...sorry.

Originally Posted by Avatard

Tig, I don't don't know what the aversion is that you seem to have to the stock tail lights...this is, after all, a fucking Mustang we're talking about, and in the world of automotive design, the three vertical bars on the tail lights of a 'Stang are about as iconic as shit gets....You don't paint a smile on the Mona Lisa, because the mouth is what's special about that painting...dig? The lights are a defining character aspect of the Mustang's design. I can see refining it, massaging it, tweaking it a tad...but abandoning the iconic "3 vertical bar" thing is a vulgar move, and will never quite look "right" (again, strictly this man's opinion).

Hypocrisy is your biggest pet peeve, huh?

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Hypocrisy is your biggest pet peeve, huh?

Yes, in case you didn't catch it, I identified that fact that both modifications had to do with iconic cars. I'm aware that others didn't like me doing it (in the rendering I submitted previously), and I'm also pointing out why so many people (myself included) don't like the non-stock tail lights, and yes, it's for the same reason, and yes I'm aware.

But...how am I a hypocrite, however? Can you explain that?

[Dnyce]

this is how upset you should be if he had a 64 1/2 mustang and put those same lights on it.

AL's version is no more "iconic/dont destroy fords design" than a honda civic or toyota corrolla. get over it.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

this is how upset you should be if he had a 64 1/2 mustang and put those same lights on it.

AL's version is no more "iconic/dont destroy fords design" than a honda civic or toyota corrolla. get over it.

It's not my car, if he likes it like that; fine.

He asked for opinions. I think it's a really nice looking car; classy. I think there's only two details that "cheapen" the classic looks of such a clean, classy car, and I expressed what those two things were, and why I thought they "cheapened" the appearance of the car, IMHO:

1) Bug Shields are often on recreational vehicles, not sports cars.

2) Clear LED lights are associated with Honda/Import cars, and are generally thought to be visually incongruous with muscle cars.

If AL is happy with the car as it sits, my opinion shouldn't faze him, or I can't imagine why he even asked others for their opinion. Nonetheless, he seems to have taken issue with my opinion, so I'm getting a little tired of defending it (I shouldn't have to), as I'm sure AL is tired of hearing it.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Avatard

It's not my car, if he likes it like that; fine.

He asked for opinions. I think it's a really nice looking car; classy. I think there's only two details that "cheapen" the classic looks of such a clean, classy car, and I expressed what those two things were, and why I thought they "cheapened" the appearance of the car, IMHO:

1) Bug Shields are often on recreational vehicles, not sports cars.

2) Clear LED lights are associated with Honda/Import cars, and are generally thought to be visually incongruous with muscle cars.

If AL is happy with the car as it sits, my opinion shouldn't faze him, or I can't imagine why he even asked others for their opinion. Nonetheless, he seems to have taken issue with my opinion, so I'm getting a little tired of defending it (I shouldn't have to), as I'm sure AL is tired of hearing it.

Um I didn't ask for general opinions, I merely asked if these tails look better than the tails that came on the car when I bought it. I certainly didn't ask to be demeaned and insulted in the manner that you displayed. You could have told me that you didn't like them without being so rude. I defended your right to your opinion, just not the way you presented it. I am fully aware of the tendency to beat down anyone that posts something personal on this forum, believe me.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Um I didn't ask for general opinions, I merely asked if these tails look better than the tails that came on the car when I bought it. I certainly didn't ask to be demeaned and insulted in the manner that you displayed. You could have told me that you didn't like them without being so rude. I defended your right to your opinion, just not the way you presented it. I am fully aware of the tendency to beat down anyone that posts something personal on this forum, believe me.

He's just gotta smack around his ginormous epenis and shit on 99% of what's put out on the forum. That's how he works man... don't try to understand him... just accept him for who he is.

[Kaneman]

Goddamn new Tigger is a pansy. :thumbsdownbitches

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Yes, in case you didn't catch it, I identified that fact that both modifications had to do with iconic cars. I'm aware that others didn't like me doing it (in the rendering I submitted previously), and I'm also pointing out why so many people (myself included) don't like the non-stock tail lights, and yes, it's for the same reason, and yes I'm aware.

But...how am I a hypocrite, however? Can you explain that?

So, if you're aware that people didn't like your design because you were "tinkering" with an iconic car, (but you were able to cast away their arguments for that reason), and you're aware that you don't like Lon changing the Mustang lights because they're iconic, and you're aware those issues are the same, how can you not be aware of the hypocrisy?

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

So, if you're aware that people didn't like your design because you were "tinkering" with an iconic car, (but you were able to cast away their arguments for that reason), and you're aware that you don't like Lon changing the Mustang lights because they're iconic, and you're aware those issues are the same, how can you not be aware of the hypocrisy?

Taste. You forgot taste. People have different tastes.



Some changes to iconic cars I like - others I don't; it boils down to taste (and perhaps how far the mod strays from the original).

Also, "frenching in" a light with a cover, and replacing a light with a completely different one IS different....AND a matter of taste.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Taste. You forgot taste. People have different tastes.



Some changes to iconic cars I like - others I don't; it boils down to taste (and perhaps how far the mod strays from the original).

Also, "frenching in" a light with a cover, and replacing a light with a completely different one IS different....AND a matter of taste.

Oh, so it's not hypocrisy as long as it's a matter of taste? I guess I deserve the dunce hat for not knowing that. And I imagine it's also not hypocrisy to criticize someone for asking for an opinion but not liking that opinion and defending their position, even though you did the same thing. And I suppose changing tail lights and "frenching" in headlights is completely different, with one being allowed on an iconic car and the other not "looking right" on a different iconic car. Yeah, that can't be hypocrisy either because it has to fall into the taste category.

Maybe you're the one that needs to sit in the corner.