Which scenario breeds the better rider? - Page 4

Apoc · 12-01-2009, 07:16 PM

The better riders are born, not bred. Better hand-eye, faster reflexes, ability to read ahead.

I've met people riding their whole lives who werent very good at it. I also know a guy who jumped off dirtbikes and onto a sportbike at 18, and could outride most lifelong riders straight away.

Balls have a lot to do with it too.

Fleck750 · 12-01-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

The better riders are born, not bred. Better hand-eye, faster reflexes, ability to read ahead.

I've met people riding their whole lives who werent very good at it. I also know a guy who jumped off dirtbikes and onto a sportbike at 18, and could outride most lifelong riders straight away.

Balls have a lot to do with it too.

May be patting myself on the back, but I resemble one of those people. This does not mean I think I'm better than most riders, just means riding came very easily to me.

If I was a few years younger and 8 inches taller, I really think I could wail on a sportbike. But being that I'm middle aged and short, I'll just have to be happy with having big balls.

karl_1052 · 12-04-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

The better riders are born, not bred. Better hand-eye, faster reflexes, ability to read ahead.

I've met people riding their whole lives who werent very good at it. I also know a guy who jumped off dirtbikes and onto a sportbike at 18, and could outride most lifelong riders straight away.

Balls have a lot to do with it too.

On the street speed doesn't mean better. I would prefer safety over fast on the street.

Apoc · 12-04-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052

On the street speed doesn't mean better. I would prefer safety over fast on the street.

Agreed, but I was talking about ability to handle a bike, throttle control, etc etc

OreoGaborio · 12-03-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

Taking the course and teaching aren't very far off from the same skill set.

Ahhh, interesting point... Not sure if I totally agree but I understand what you're getting at.

But lets take rider skill out of the equation for a second & look at beliefs (for lack of a better word)
Just because one takes a safety course doesn't mean they BELIEVE in being a safe rider.
I see all too many riders (again, regardless of skill level) who have taken & completed the course & get that insurance discount, ride in a blatantly unsafe manner.

Teaching it however, you probably do.
I don't see too many MSF coaches riding crazy on the street.

Anyway, I hope that you would agree that in general, an MSF RiderCoach would be less likely to get into an accident than your average MSF BRC grad.
I just think that the folks that coach the course deserve a little discount as well.

FT BSTRD · 12-03-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

I don't see too many MSF coaches riding crazy on the street.

Anyway, I hope that you would agree that in general, an MSF RiderCoach would be less likely to get into an accident than your average MSF BRC grad.
I just think that the folks that coach the course deserve a little discount as well.

I NEED to introduce you to Barker.

OreoGaborio · 12-03-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

I NEED to introduce you to Barker.

Nice pic!

But that's not necessarily crazy... that's fun!

(wish I had some similar street pics to share, but all I have are pics from the track

)

What I mean by riding crazy, in this case, is riding beyond their limits. I call that "stupid fast"

dReWpY · 12-03-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

I NEED to introduce you to Barker.

that just reminds me of that day with you and chad and barker....

insert evil laugh....

FT BSTRD · 12-04-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by drewpy

that just reminds me of that day with you and chad and barker....

insert evil laugh....

Thank you Mr. Christmas Tree.

Tmall · 12-04-2009, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

Ahhh, interesting point... Not sure if I totally agree but I understand what you're getting at.

But lets take rider skill out of the equation for a second & look at beliefs (for lack of a better word)
Just because one takes a safety course doesn't mean they BELIEVE in being a safe rider.
I see all too many riders (again, regardless of skill level) who have taken & completed the course & get that insurance discount, ride in a blatantly unsafe manner.

Teaching it however, you probably do.
I don't see too many MSF coaches riding crazy on the street.

Anyway, I hope that you would agree that in general, an MSF RiderCoach would be less likely to get into an accident than your average MSF BRC grad.
I just think that the folks that coach the course deserve a little discount as well.

The only reason I would agree with this is because a msf coach would likely be riding for a few years before they start to teach.

Aside from shoulder checks, what did you learn at msf to make you a safer rider that isn't common sense? Even the shoulder checks are..

MSF teaches you very basic skills. And I agree with not giving discounts for it. Do you get a discount for your car for doing a parking lot course in it? If they were to take you on the street and give you real experience, then I would agree.

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