I think a Hayabusa is better than a Litre. The Hayabusa doesn't seem to stand up as much. I've always compare it to a jet taking off. It just starts to pull and slowly starts to bring the front end up. On a litre you smack it and the front is coming up.

Now I've ridden an RC51 and a SV1000. The RC51 was harder to ride to me than the SV1000. I loved it but saw great potential for trouble.

My vote would be any 1000cc+ V-twin.

But yes the powerband of the I4s can get you into a lot of trouble too. I just think someone could actually regulate themselves better with an I4 better than a V-twin which is strong power between 2k-12k compared to 11k-15k.

I also wonder about say the Triumph 1050s. Those have got to be monsters

Any newbie with no experience will think any bike above 599cc's is potent as fuck.

Wouldn't that be saying a 600rr, R6, ZX6r, GSXR600 be good for a beginner?

Either you missed a word in here or I think you completely misunderstood him. Any sportbike 599 and bigger is too powerful for a newbie.

:iagree: With newer bikes anyway. The first bike I rode was an 02 F4i 600 and I could tell just in a parking lot that I could get myself in a lot of trouble on that bike. :willy:

I wouldn't say "too" powerful. Only because that's exactly what I did and I ended up fine. But they're definately potent enough to make things go bad real quick. The trick is to fear and respect the throttle.

He said a bike ABOVE 599cc. Most Sport 600 bikes are literally 599CCs. I get what he was saying but making a joke.

Which I was asking this question for poops and giggles. I understand how powerful modern 600s are and how any bike can be lethal. But throw a newbie on a GSXR600 vs a Ducati 1098 or even a Monster SR4 and which bike are they most likely to crash?

I don't totally agree with all that. I started out on an SV650 and it worked out great. I know Trip started out on an SV650 also.

As did I. I think a new 600 would be far harder to start on.

I can agree with that.
I know when I started riding the 600's were nothing like they are today. I think the new 600's almost compare to the old liter bikes.