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Mr Lefty 01-09-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 142903)
The BCS fucking sucks. They're just playing a bunch of exibition games a month after the season. Stupid.


And lets no kid ourselves...Utah didn't deserve to be in the National Championship any more than Penn State did. Until they schedule solid teams and beat them handedly they won't get any consideration (Utah).

but Utah stomped shitville... who was praised all year till they lost to Florida. but yes... they need some more strength in schedule but they played Oregon State, TCU, and BYU...

they had Michigan, Utah State, and Weber state to round out their non conf. opp. trade Weber and shitigan for a decent 20ish ranked team and they'd have been in the top 5 I think.

I just think it's weird... how everyone claims the SEC and Big 12 are so much better than any other conferences...

lets see...
USC stomped tOSU
Texas barely beat tOSU
Texas Stomped Oklahoma
Texas Tech barely beat Texas
Mississippi barely beat Florida
Mississippi stomped Texas Tech.
Florida beat shitville
Utah stomped shitville
Utah barely beat Oregon State
Oregon State barely beat USC
USC stomped Oregon
Oregon stomped Oklahoma State

I'd say at least the pac10, SEC, and Big 12 are on equal ground. the SEC getting the nod in my book for a bit more depth.

I'd like to see (and I hear rumors one is in the works for USC) the Pac10 and the SEC to do a home and home.

marko138 01-09-2009 09:09 AM

The SEC is far superior to just about every conference, IMO.

Trip 01-09-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebbs15 (Post 142940)
but Utah stomped shitville... who was praised all year till they lost to Florida. but yes... they need some more strength in schedule but they played Oregon State, TCU, and BYU...

they had Michigan, Utah State, and Weber state to round out their non conf. opp. trade Weber and shitigan for a decent 20ish ranked team and they'd have been in the top 5 I think.

I just think it's weird... how everyone claims the SEC and Big 12 are so much better than any other conferences...

lets see...
USC stomped tOSU
Texas barely beat tOSU
Texas Stomped Oklahoma
Texas Tech barely beat Texas
Mississippi barely beat Florida
Mississippi stomped Texas Tech.
Florida beat shitville
Utah stomped shitville
Utah barely beat Oregon State
Oregon State barely beat USC
USC stomped Oregon
Oregon stomped Oklahoma State

I'd say at least the pac10, SEC, and Big 12 are on equal ground. the SEC getting the nod in my book for a bit more depth.

I'd like to see (and I hear rumors one is in the works for USC) the Pac10 and the SEC to do a home and home.



Pac 10, lol you are dreaming. Big 12 is closer than the Pac 10 to the SEC and that's not close.

Mr Lefty 01-09-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 142941)
The SEC is far superior to just about every conference, IMO.

FAR superior? no... I'm sorry.

they don't play big out of conference games but maybe one or two a year...

they are the best conference imo by pure depth... but not far superior...

top team in each conference order would be imo
USC
Florida
Texas
Penn St.

2nd
Oklahoma
Oregon
shitville
Ohio St.

3rd
Texas Tech
Georgia
Oregon St.
Michigan St.

4th
Mississippi
California
Iowa
Missouri

Mr Lefty 01-09-2009 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 142948)
Pac 10, lol you are dreaming. Big 12 is closer than the Pac 10 to the SEC and that's not close.


I think the big 12 is pretty evenly matched with the Pac10... and the SEC is better... but not that much better. sorry.

Rider 01-09-2009 09:34 AM

The Pac-10 went 5-0 in their bowl games. No other conference could do that.

Mr Lefty 01-09-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 142965)
The Pac-10 went 5-0 in their bowl games. No other conference could do that.

because of that... and the SEC going 6-2

Pac 10 also has the highest bowl winning percentage over the last 10 years (I think that was the time frame) just edging out the SEC

Trip 01-09-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebbs15 (Post 142961)
FAR superior? no... I'm sorry.

they don't play big out of conference games but maybe one or two a year...

they are the best conference imo by pure depth... but not far superior...

top team in each conference order would be imo
USC
Florida
Texas
Penn St.

2nd
Oklahoma
Oregon
shitville
Ohio St.

3rd
Texas Tech
Georgia
Oregon St.
Michigan St.

4th
Mississippi
California
Iowa
Missouri


The thing is the 2nd team in the SEC if they showed up could play with and beat the first team in every other conference. The 3rd team could hang and possibly win against the first team. The top 10 SEC teams could beat anyone listed in the 3rd-4th position. We don't need high caliber out of conference games because we beat the fuck out of each other all year as a high caliber conference. The pac 10 either has to play shitty or good ooc because they are middle caliber and only have up or down to go. Big 12 and Big 10 can't say shit about SEC's ooc games.

Depth is superiority, we are a good conference all around and that's the entire point.

Trip 01-09-2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 142965)
The Pac-10 went 5-0 in their bowl games. No other conference could do that.

We did go 5-0 if we throw out 3 teams, but we had 8 freakin bowl eligible teams most playing quality opponents and not mid majors.

Mr Lefty 01-09-2009 09:44 AM

you could say the same thing about the pac 10. had the same team that beat USC played Penn State... or Oregon... or Utah... or stanford Oregon State would have gone undefeated and could have given the best in the SEC a good game...

I conceeded the point that the SEC is deep... but they're not FAR superior. sorry... if they'd play a tough out of confrence schedule... you'd see that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 142976)
We did go 5-0 if we throw out 3 teams, but we had 8 freakin bowl eligible teams most playing quality opponents and not mid majors.

who played NO ONE out of conference to build up that record


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