Didn't even think about all the stuff on the back. How did it fair? Laptop and everything ok?

yeah... it was a bit much... and damn... that sucked on the freeway and at the pump

yeah everything is alright... using my laptop now actually

Guess who?

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yeah trip didn't want me showing him up so when we went by Killboy he made us stop and talk... :lol:

next year... NEXT YEAR...

Glad you're all right dude. I've had 7 get-offs in my riding career. None are fun, but you usually learn something from them.

yeah... I'm learning... quit trying to show off to the HS girls in the convertible next to you....




I mean... no laps in concentration! :lol:

Ya know Nick must have those guys paid off or something. I was trying to post a pic of ebbs and chewy and everytime it goes right to him!

:idk:

:lol:
damn... won't post anything when I try... damn you nick...
http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orde...E050256&po=256 http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orde...E050256&po=256

looser

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Sorry to hear about your mishap!

Oh and I think that the clutch lever slipped out of his hand and he looped his bike during an aggressive launch.

yup I was getting on it a bit harder than usual... but not harder than I've done before... it was pure lack of concentration and being too lackadaisical about it.

though I will say thank god for my gear... had I been wearing sneekers shorts and a t-shirt... I'd be in some serious pain right now... definite broken ankle... maybe a busted elbow... and lots of rash on my arm and knee

Thankfully I haven't gone down for that reason. I had a too fast/gravel/target fixation lowside, hit by a car, speed/painted line highside, oil leak lowside, hit by another car, lowside in T1 at JGP, lowside in T10 JGP. First one was in '03, last one was two weeks ago sunday.

missing again

yeah not sure what the issue is... but anyways...


Hope your alright Phi...


Just got the estimate today.... Drum roll please.. $6786.67 considering that's almost 2K more than I bought the bike for... or just 500 less then the run for new... I'm think'n they'll total it.

looks like I'll be looking for a new bike when I get to Mississippi.

DAYUM. the pic that you posted didnt look that bad...

well the frame was scratched... the tank had a dent... the swing arm was scratched... every piece of fairing was gonna be replaced (already had scratches but they counted them anyways) and my rearsets were scratched as well as my pazzo levers... rearsets were 460 cause they couldn't get the exact ones... and the pazzo levers were 190...

server took a shit last night and anything posted during that time is lost.

huh... weird


working now though.

hey link me to the 09 RR you had

Glad u alright man, goodspeed on the recovery.

I'm good... my ankle swelling has gone down alot... the anti inflammatory pills they gave me

Yeah, I've gotten banged up pretty good before (my first wreck got me a med discharge from the Army) but the last one wasn't bad, pretty mundane lowside, gear works!

yeah it does... had I not had my boots on... I'd be in a cast... 100% sure of that

Sorry bout your wreck and its good that you can live to ride another day but dont let this discourage you from Wheeling. You just need to learn better throttle, clutch, and rear brake control. What damage was all done to this thing.... I saw you cracked your cover and rashed some plastics is that it.... I would just replace the cover and not even go through insurance it isnt worth having to pay surcharge for minor 1k- $1,500 damage.

if it was just that.. I'd still go through insurance... I've got full coverage and a $500 deductible... but the bike was totaled today... the frame was scratched, tank dented, every fairing scratched... swing arm scratched... fairing stay bent, headlight cracked... ect... 6786 worth of damage.

bike's only work 5K retail right now anyways.

scratched frame, lil dent on the tank, scratched swingarm.........sounds like a track bike

:whistle:

how much to buy it back?

don't know yet... thinking about that too... :idk:

would be a gd idea, depending on when u come back and where u are stationed at.

I'll be in Mississippi and I'll be back in March...

Even if the buyback is cheap enough you could probably sell it for a little bit more to someone looking for a track bike if you cant afford to have two.

Mississippi? Yuck! Stay in Korea! j/k!

yeah I'm really thinking about that... 500-700 for race plastics.... and 90 for the case cover... and that's it! I could care less about the frame scratches... maybe I can get it for under 2g's...

:lol: I see you have a pic of my new backyard!

at least there's tracks there.... and year round riding

sorry to hear about your wreck man. but glad to hear your alright. :dthumb:

oh Chewy and I parted ways in Indy... he cock blocked me from Rae... then took off with NtS before I could give him a beat down

Shit,Hotbodies offered me race plastic for $300 shipped. I'm telling you buy back FTW! You can get a Vortex/Woodcraft covers for under $300. When they give you the buy back figure,see if they'll take less. I got my '01 GSXR back for $150 from Nationwide. People tend to treat Insurance Companies as if they are doing us a favor by handling our claims but they are merely providing a service that we PAID for. You have to keep that in mind. The adjusters are paid to pay out as little as possible,you have to show that your bike was worth more or less in the case a of a buy back. Don't let them push you around buddy!

oh I won't... they're paying me 1800 for all my gear... they were only going pay me for the helmet... but I fought that shit... and told them... look... either you can pay the 1100 for my gear or... pay for skin grafts the next time... :lol: can't believe they didn't call my bluff


and yes... I'm not gonna pay over 1700 to buy it back. but I'm not taking less than 5000 for it... unfortunately race plastics are hard to come by for my bike... I've looked before... and I don't know if woodcraft or vortex makes covers for my bike... unfortunately most don't.

I'd like to buy it back and track it... be awesome.

either way... I'm gonna get a 600rr or GSXR600 next leaning heavily towards the RR

hey hopalong, how's the ol ankle feeling today?

really well actually... anti-inflammatory's... FTW

Hotbodies are the worst track 'glass you can buy EVER.

A little late and saw the myspace update.

What would be funny (To us not you) is if you did that in front of a cop and you had to tell him your finger really did slip off the clutch.

Glad you aren't too banged up. Now be a man and get a Busa.

ACTUALLY when the cop showed up he tried to give me a ticket for wheelie'n... but the 4 guys standing around told him that I wasn't TRYING to wheelie... fuck'n stupid...

in the end he just gave me a lecture about how dangerous bikes are at which I interrupted and said just give me my case number...

Oh yea? Well let me introduce you to TARGA early 90s...:hangman: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW I've heard bad things about HB as well. I think he was offering his shit cheap to clean up their reputation. Apparently,it was some new better made stuff,or so he claimed anyway.

First of all... I can't believe I went through this entire thread and NOT ONE PICTURE?? *(^Q@#(^%)#

Glad you're relatively alright. But, if the ankle is still bothering you best have it checked out. Ankle injuries are the worst if they don't heal right :wink:

i thought the plastics were scratched up, not broken. why even buy track plastics?

GOOD POINT!!! There's no law against street plastic on the track.... well,unless you race,then you need a "belly pan"...

$6800??? I know you could buy an entire new ZZR for that. Don't sweat it, just go to the next bike and don't look back...My first bike went like that, $6400 out the door and 1000 miles later $3800 worth of damage. I had it repaired but there was always a ghost voice telling me it just wasn't right. I traded it off and never looked back!

I'm not reading all this shit... what is the deal with your bike Ebbs?

Very high damage estimate... only buy it back and track it if you don't plan to race. That bike would never be competitive in it's displacement class.

Otherwise you've got a track day machine for CHEAP and money in your pocket.

Probably want to get it measured up by a GMD computrack to check the frame/forks.
Evidently it's all about getting around the track as slowly as possible.
Fixed.

well yeah I don't plan on racing... I'd like to do track constantly... but who knows... not really sure... depends on what they say it's worth and how much I can buy it bike for.

So I got called back... they're offering me $5850 for the bike... I'll find out tomorrow that the buy back price is... hoping under $2000... but who knows.

but $5850 is a good number for me :D

You should have whipped out your dick and started peeing on him.

But trying to wheelie. That's like writing a ticket for drifting when a car hydroplanes.

was too busy think'n about how I was gonna make it the 800 miles to my 'rents house. but yeah I'm glad now... as I'd have probably said something stupid...

I live in the 2000's, bud.

well my title issue is solved... (wells fargo didn't send out my title when I paid it off a year ago)...

and after talking it over with a few people... and some soul search'n... I think I'm just gonna say goodbye to my ZZR... I don't think I'd want to ride it much with a brand new bike in the stable. and really with the added bike payment... and house payment... who knows just HOW much track riding I'll be doing.

so looks like I've got 5850... err 4000 for a down payment on a bike... (pay back my dad)

COME ON HONDA let's see the 09 Colors already... :tt:

Glad to see it should be working out pretty well for you. Just dont loop the next one.

Be one of the cool kids and buy a gsxr. We can wear oakleys and ride wheelies into school buses together.

when do they come get the bike? I'll go strip it before then :D

Probably a good choice. I always thought I wanted to keep my GSXR too...but the second I rode the new Buell...the GSXR was the last thing on my mind. I woulda never rode it again. But I was still a little sad to see it go.

my dogs will maul you!

yeah... I'm glad it'll be gone before I get back...

No matter how prized or how pretty, no matter how many miles, how much maintenance, or how much loving attention has been lavished upon it. In the end they all go down the road....:sorry:

What is important is the pilot bails and lives to fight another day, wiser and better off from his experience.

TRUF!


and really... I enjoyed her while I had her...

$4000? Don't waste it on a down payment. Time to get an all-around bike. Something used. Like a '98 or later ZX9. You can tour, race, commute, or canyon hop on it. Here on Craigslist, they give them away for around $3K. That's what I'd get.

max don't scare me :sniper:

I swear no matter how much money you had, you would never buy anything newer than 10 years old :lol:

Not true. I like the 2001-04 Gixxer 1000, any year Busa, ZX9's up to 02, R1's up to 05, any year RC51, 2004-on CBR1000, etc. But I really don't care for many of the newer bikes with super-high HP and lack of low and mid-range grunt. And with the way the economy is going, I'm just being pragmatic about buying used.

Why do I like old bikes? My CBR1000 only made 108 HP when new, equal to most 600's. But I can do full throttle from a stop on my old CBR1000 without worry of flipping it (sorry Ebbs). That means from 0-60, I can beat all the new, short wheelbase bikes (2.75 seconds for the CBR according to Cycle magazine, 1991). Check out the magazines if you don't believe me. And I could probably do that with a full load of groceries and beer in my saddle bags and tank bag. That mine has a better seat, bigger fairing, bigger gas tank, and a centerstand is just icing on the cake. The tonnage may be a problem for some, but there's no tracks around here anymore, so it doesn't bother me.

As for the ZX9, it is a fast, quick, comfortable, good handling superbike. Ebbs could take it anywhere in the country, and stay up with any newer bikes. Plus, I like green. And if Ebbs still has a place in his heart for Kawasaki, all he would need is liability insurance, and he could keep the extra money for speeding tickets.

Around 1998 or so, all the liter bikes went to the same size as 600's, but the ZX9 was still full-size until the end. That's important for some (big) people. When Sport Rider compared the Busa against the ZX9 in 99, the ZX was a full second quicker than the Busa 60-80 (could have been 80-100), but anyway, that's some power for an engine that's almost 400cc's less. Yes, I do like the ZX9.

I loved my year Kawi... and the ZX9 was always something I looked at... but honestly... I'm no where near needing or wanting a 1000cc bike... I like the 600's... and I'm very interested in checking out the track.

eventually I'd like to have a bigger bike for the long trips... the busa has crossed my mind... but that's a LONG way away... I'm still young... and still have my flexability... and still of the mindset part of the adventure is doing it on something people think you can't....

shit half the fun was the reactions I'd get when I told them where I rode from and they'd say... ON THAT!? ... one of my brothers friends actually asked me if I hated my "taint" :lmao:

in reality... my ZZR wasn't uncomfortable at all... I could have easily spent another 30 days doing the TWFix US tour. that is if $ and time allowed. oh... and if I wasn't a jackass and decide to be johnny squid in Indiana.

Go ahead, get a GSXR 750... It's literally a 600 with the motor punched out 25% bigger. :dthumb:

I like your style.

and most 900s are literally punched out 750s :whistle: prob goes to explain why my bike redlines at 12k. really curious what the rod ratio is. anyway mister ebbs i agree with no worries. a used zx9 would be an awesome addition and dont count em out too soon. bigger bikes are seriously easier to ride down low. no need to rape the throttle

Why the hell would anybody want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that? Lemme rephrase...Why would any 20-something-year-older want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that and put out way more hp?

Cause not everyone is a track slut like you... :idk:

Wrong, dumb answer. It's not about me. It's because they're like computers...they get outdated. Less appealing to the younger crowd. No Worries is just stuck in his old ways, just like I'll probably be 15-20 years from now. Hell, I'm getting that way already with music. I barely like anything new, especially hip-hop. All that shit is garbage now.

Dlit... his answer to your question is in the post you quoted... that zx9 is gonna be more comfortable for cruising, touring, and a bit more stable as it's heavier.

but really... I just don't want a 1000cc... and as much as I loved my ZZR600... I don't want another... I would like to try a new 600...

I'm still dumb enough to try touring on it... but I'd like something a bit newer...

I say it depends more on the 20something in question.
One that was raised that always had money and therefore the latest and greatest growing up, will probalby still prefer the newest.
Those that had enough to just get by will look more toward the economics and usability of the item, rather than if it is the "best thing out there"
This is not always the case, and maybe it's just where/how I've been raised too. :idk:

I'll chock it up to different strokes for different folks. The older, heavier bikes looks-wise and specs-wise just can't compare to the newer bikes. And I'm not just talking about sportbikes.

They don't make bikes that are stable and comfortable anymore? Just as stable and comfortable but without the outdated looks.

well not that they're not stable... but with shorter wheel bases and lighter weight... they're less stable in wind.

and as far as comfort... sorry... but the new bikes just aren't as comfy as the old... with the more relaxed ergos and thicker seats... when they were street first... track a distant second

I'm not talking about just sportbikes. The ergos of the old sportbikes are pretty much the same as a sport-tourer nowadays.

And most important on the newer bikes...FUEL INJECTED!

I'm not gonna lie, I'd probably wanna Rip my Hands off if I rode my Zx6 as far as Ebbs rode his ZZR...The Ergo's on Streetbikes are no match for a Cruiser or Sport Tourer.

My bike was Carbed... and NEVER had an issue with it... even in Early may in AK(which is VERY EARLY SPRING for AK) 30* mornings... bike took 2 times to crank over... granted it needed a bit of choke but I set it then turned it down as the bike warmed up.

and I see what your saying... but when these motors can easily run 2-3x longer than most will see with proper maintenance then why spend double the money just for a newer bike?

it comes down to preference... I'm torn between the two... I don't like assuming others issues, but don't like taking the big hit on $ of buying a new bike. I'm the same with cars... though I know how to work on my Truck inside and out... so I'll buy a Toyota pickup in the worst condition if it's a deal. bikes... not so much. so I'm leaning towards new.

I dunno... Kat rode 2000 in 5 days... Rae rode up from and down to FL on hers... they both have very new model 600's...

The key to my trip was days of rest. I always had 1 day between trips to relax. didn't plan that at first... but I cut some "fat" from my route... and was rewarded with a few more days before Indy.

I did have a couple long routes... AR to Rae... 904 miles (cause I got turned around for 50+ miles thanks to GPS fuck'n up in MS) and Dayton to ND 1095 miles but ended up being 200+ miles as my bike decided it had enough miles for that month.

Rae and Kat are Smaller than Me, Any Streetbike I sit on is GOnna feel Different than it would for Those two...I'm not saying I wouldn't take the Six for a Long Ride...I'd be all for it...I would just have to do a few things to it first for some comfort Mods.

yeah just get a tank bag to lean on at times, and an Air Hawk seat pad... I let drewpy use it on his trip with OSP earlier this year... FUCKING AWESOME if you do long trip in the saddle. its $125 or so... but so fucking worth it. but you can't ride aggressively with it... as it grips your ass and won't let you slide off

i dragged a knee with it... fully loaded tail, tank and saddle bags and all:whistle: it can be done:panic:

well you were the one that told me that! I never really tried... then again... I can't drag a knee anyhow :lol:

Ur right and that does make a big difference! With my size I can rest my head on my tank bag when riding, as well as shift around. I got a pro gel seat pad for the trip too, took awhile to break in, but after about 1000-1500 miles it was comfortable enough that the wear on my body was much less, seat wise anyway.

Any trips you begin taking on bikes like that are a bit of a body adjustment thing. Ive taken enough long rides, and done enough all day rides to acclimate myself for a long time in the saddle as well as lil tricks I use to spare certain body parts..."spider monkeyin"! :wink:

:lol: i remember thinking... wtf is she doing? drag'n a knee on a straight stretch of freeway?

i can only imagine what i looked like haning off my bike, just trying to stretch out on the Co trip

Ah the joys of a good "spider monkeying"! To be young and flexible again!:drool:

:lol: ahh to be following her and thinking the same thing :lol:

The 1998 R1 weighed 448 lbs (wet). The 2008 RR weighs 439 lbs (wet). When I was in my 20's all my friends wanted to wheelie. They had H1's, H2's, and RD's. Great wheelie machines, while I had a GT750, great for everything but wheelies. The twenty-somethings I see today still want to wheelie. Going downhill and in third gear no less.

That makes me appear like a Luddite. I may be. Last year, I did a demo on a Aprilia Tuono Factory. I had read so many great things about it. I expected it to be so much better than my old bikes. The brakes were stellar, but the bike stumbled away from each light, the seat was unbearable, the riding position gave me cramps, and the mirrors were useless. I didn't test it for wheelies, but after twenty minutes, I couldn't wait to get on my big, heavy bike. As for Hip-hop, I didn't think anything could be as bad as Disco, but I stand corrected.

At Denver's altitude, any bike has already lost 10 percent power. If you go in the mountains, you lose another 10 percent or more. If you go up Mount Evans, you probably lose 50 percent. That's why I like liter bikes.

And I'll tell you a secret. You can blast around the canyons here on any bike. Brand new R6 or 35-year-old RD. Half of the curves around here are blind. Do you want to go around a blind corner at full speed? The main reason I like a liter bike is for passing a vehicle. This is where horsepower doesn't mean shit. I need torque, tons of it, and at low rpm. Especially going uphill. There aren't many straights on the roads I go on, so I need to get around a car in several seconds or less. Plus brake and lean for the next curve. God, I love it here.

I hear what your saying... and I had this exact conversation with a friend of Rae's... actually he's a member here...

but any idiot can ride a liter bike fast... just twist the wrist... the torque is gonna get you up to speed quick...

a 600 takes more skill to ride fast as it doesn't have that torque or power to cover your mistakes. I'd rather learn how to ride the 600 right... then possible (probably not though) move up to a 1000 where I can apply that technique. ya know?

not saying every liter bike riders are all idiots... just that I wanna learn what I can from the 600 before (if ever) I move up

V-twin FTW :rockwoot:

im always monkying the bike lol

I'd have more fun blasting around a twisty mountain road on a 35 yeard old RD350 than I would a brand new GSXR. Of course my SuMo would probably be more fun that either, plus a hooker.

Well maybe you would but I owned a RZ350 and the power band was as thin as a cunt hair. The tires weren't radial,the suspension was weak,the brakes made suggestions to the speed of the bike and sent feedback by Pony Express.

As I've mentioned before,I LOVED MY V-MAX!!! But to look back with nostalgia colored glasses and state that it's a "better" bike or more "fun" than my GSXR.....:sorry: