I hate minivans!
 

Got cut off by a minivan a couple days ago...long story short tires locked and i slammed into the back of the van got chucked from the bike knocked out and my poor poor bike :(......who emerges from the driver's door but a middleaged woman....her daughter was also in the car...i hate to shittalk my own gender but uh...fml

I'm convinced that minivans should require a special freakin' license.

Any injuries?

um failure to control veh. ticket woulda been given to you in TX.

How much UNDER the speed limit was the Minivan traveling when it entered your path?

and how much OVER were "you" traveling?

yeah cause Racer X teaches MSF and knows everything

Aw come on guys... she got cut off may mean that the van came in from a side street...

Yea we should be the last ones to automatically blame sport bike riders for crashes. The general public takes care of that for us everyday.

and rides alot of city miles vs country bumpkins........

isn't that how it is in your state? you hit the back of a car, it's the rear cars fault?

S/B are in more single bike wrecks then other bikes..........crazy i know.

Actually if a vehicle moves into your lane and causes you to hit them, the black and white rule of hitting the back of a car no longer applies.

Oh, and congratulations on riding so many city miles. That's amazing.

Sorry you crashed. That sucks.

That is what this thread was about, right? I couldn't tell with the e-pissing contest going on.

It's not "automatically" your fault, there are possible mitigating circumstances.

Um this isn't a single vehicle accident, Bro... I know that sport bikes get into a lot of single vehicle accidents and I've heard the "gravel" excuse plenty of times myself BUT that doesn't mean that every accident, regardless of circumstances is the rider's fault. I just don't appreciate the guilty until proven innocent POV when it comes to sport bike riders.

Anyway, I hope that you are all right and that you and your bike are back on the road asap!

Fuck that..accidents happen. She's up here posting so she's ok.

What can we learn from the accident? What can be shared?

I will say whenever I hear someone say they were involved in a motorcycle accident, my first question is "What dumbass thing were you doing?"

Minivan cut her off, and she locked up the brakes?
What the hell was the speed difference that you locked up the brakes and where the hell was your buffer zone? Where you scanning? Checking cage mirrors as you over taking people?

Sorry to hear about your spill Zippiechickie. I am always weary of vans/minivans because they have horrible blind spots and are often filled with distracted drivers/kids. Hope you heal up and get your bike fixed and back on the road soon.

Yea, I went for a ride with my gf yesterday and I counseled her on staying away from minivans and suvs. I told her to avoid staying off their sides if possible and to never remain at their corners. I explained that she was the rabbit and as the rabbit it was her responsibility to look out for and avoid danger!

I almost got taken out by a lady in a black Sedan DeVille last night. She cut right in front of me while changing lanes without even looking.(parking lot speeds)

Yeah what she said...seriously.

ITS ALWAYS THE GRAVELS FAULT, we have established that already :lol:

Too much jumping to conclusions here, theres not that much detail she gave so its easy to speculate.

And like the gravel I will always blame the minivan ;)

Tom

Ditto! Glad you are OK!!

Ditto that!

Fixed it for ya! :lol

But... But... But Racer X said! And he teaches MSF and rides in the city. He should know!

Havent you listened to a damn thing that was said so far?

:td:

I am sorry I jumped to a conclusion :lol:

Tom

you can attone by stocking up on generators and selling them at a premium to people in their time of need.

That, and say 10 'Hail Eds', and all will be forgiven, and you will once again be allowed to ride only the way Ed instructs you to.

damm that ed !

How horrible. Accidents suck - hitting objects with your motorcycle sucks - I'm so sorry that happened, and I'm very glad you're alright.

As a tip - when you approach a vehicle that is at a stop perpendicular to your path of travel, watch the vehicle's wheels rather than the entire box. Unless said vehicle has spinners, you will be able to determine if they are rolling much easier than watching the big box.

There ARE such things as accidents. It is our own personal responsibility to be able to minimize accidents happening to us by being aware of our surroundings or path of travel; and setting our own pace able to maneuver should something happen.

Well there is a hurricaine headed this way so I will head over to lowes and stock up :lol:

Tom

Also, try to make "eye contact" with the driver. Slow down if you are unsure that they see you and cover your brakes just in case!!! B I O N, I do this everyday and it has saved my ass many times.

Sorry to hear, hope you are okay, look at this situation in preparation for future ones.

Eye contact doesn't work - they look right *through* you. :panic:

If it was only your rear tire that locked up (most likely), then try relying on your front brake alot more. Go to a track day and do some braking drills. The front brake will make the bike stand up WAY before the front tire would ever lock up, unless of course there's gravel or an oil spot, which is rare. Keep in mind however that the more front brake you use, the less rear brake you should use, because your weight is transferring to the front and therefore the rear tire can lock up more easily. In the twisties I use the front brake ONLY.

that sucks zippie hope you are ok, my first and only stoppie was caused by a dipshit in a minivan not paying attention

Always a horrible situation.

I had one merge into me so hard that I had to veer into the oncoming lane and gas it. It was my closest call. This was on a 4 lane crowded bridge during rush hour. Flexin can attest to how dangerous it is. I missed the oncoming car by feet, and I could practically feel her mirror on my shoulder.

Bad memory but a minivan cost my bf his left leg! Ofcourse he pulled a HUGE settlement but it still fucking sucks!

i hope you meant best friend and not BOYFRIEND :eek: he still riding? could always rock an airshifter

:?:

Ya, your one to be making fun of another mans homosexual tendacies! :lol Mr. Fashionista!

Let up on Tigger, I am sure he meant butt fucker, not boyfriend.

redflip

My best friend.

Your best friend is your boyfriend? That's just weird....

Yea we broke up when he lost his leg...

Ahhh.... He lost THAT leg...

Oh well, its obvious you didnt love him, he's better off without you! :td:

:lol

Leaving somebody because of a disability is kind of gay.:lol:

Gawd people, how bout we let her know we're glad she's okay and not critique the living daylights out of her without any of us knowing what the hell happened!!??

Zippy, hope your doing okay and the bike isnt too bad hun! Heal up quick!

OUCH! Glad you are alright zippie.

Direct your anger at Ed. Its more fun when you don't 'generalize'..

And of course everyone is glad she's ok.

Sorry to hear that zippy. I almost had a run in with a van/wagon thing with a distracted driver the other day.. shits not cool.

:lol Awesome.

Man I wonder why we don't have more newbs around here? :lol:

Sorry about your off Zippie! It sucks ass! Hope you and your bike get better real soon.

maybe it's me, but if i was hurt, i doubt i'd be posting on the inet.............

there's always learning from other's experiences.......

Actually, unless you're bedridden an injury wouldn't keep someone from posting on the internet.

And if you're genuinely concerned about helping people (:lol:), try being less condescending and drop the douche bag attitude:
I think your "teaching skills" are a major contributor to the increase in single vehicle motorcycle accidents. :lol:

Good grief - no kidding. :skep:

first of all, I am fine. concusion and bruises. i'll live. my bike is fairly lucky also seems to be major cosmetic damage..and that's it (broken left mirror, snapped left footpeg, amputated left turn signal, etc). This is the situation: I was going 40 in a 35..the van was on a sidestreet.. and pulled out as I was about one foot from the sidestreet. I'm well aware I shouldn't have been going 40 in a 35, I should have expected the van to be a douche...If people want to critique my riding skills thats cool, but it's not like i'm saying im perfect and the minivan should get it in the ass...im saying I got in a crash...that's all....

ps thanks for all the good wishes those of you who offered them :)

also no, I didn't get any tickets...

Funny thing is I dress pretty boring.....Just business-casual shlep most of the time........I suck at buying clothes and end up returning half the shit I buy. Had no fashion sense as a kid....... Wore highwater pants all the time, black belts with brown shoes or even white running shoes, white socks all the time :lol: Only reason I make so many comments about fashion is because it's my way of getting revenge against everyone who made fun of me as a kid :lol:

Glad you are okay...

thanks tached....im cool just pissed the whole thing happened...

So what plans do you have for the bike now?

pissed > dead ;)

lol yes I am deffinatly thankful that if the accident was gonna happpened I walked away from it...very thankful indeed...

and my plans for the bike are to pick up more hours at work and slowly replace what needs to be replaced...it's gonna take me forever with work and school but at least I rode alot this summer...it'll get there I'll make sure for certain it's mechanically sound and take it from there

Happy to hear it didn't scare you off.

Get right back on that horse!

it's gonna take more then that to scare me off...I love riding

I remember after my big wreck. I was more pissed that I couldn't ride, than I was about being out a lot of money and full of scars..

4o in a 35, you god damned maniac what is wrong with you :lol:

At least you prety much walked away from all of it but it does suck having to fix the bike, any shot of insurance kicking in some?

Tom

Zippie, what did the driver of the van say to you in response to the accident/incident?

:dthumb:

to be honest the driver didn't say a word to me...i woke up on the pavement with people teling me not to move and first thing i said was MY BIKE!!! actually it was witnesses who told me not to move the driver was parked like off to the side in the distance...w/e but yea haha I was buggin out...she didn't speak a word to me...we both gave our statements to the cop...now I have to wait on what my insurance says but i'm just gonna make myself beleive i have to pay for it all on my own that way if i by chance do get any help from insurance it'll seem like some damn good shit haha

It's probably best that you didn't talk to her. :lol: Nothing good can come of a conversation with someone who fucked you up. :wink:

Glad it wasn't worse. Glad you are willing to get back in the saddle too. :D

thats probably the best outlook to take. again, glad to hear you're alright. lots of bodywork on ebay right now ;)

Should have set her van on fire.

Glad you are okay.

thnxx guyss...yea I mean I was really mad at the time cuz my bike is (was) the nicest thing i own..butt shit happens sooooo you live, you learn, and you get luvs...i mean you move on? lol note to self leave forums alone on friday night after a few shots...ahah

yeah you dont wanna get luvs :lmao:

I refuse to allow myself into a situation where I will have to purchase diapers for a looonggggggg time haha

well that makes two of us :lol: btw, we're having a party tonight so if you wanna bring you and your man down here and get wastey faced you're more than welcome

Sounds like you guys may actualy need those diapers then :lol:

Tom

omg partayy hayyyyy haha but like I said before..I have no man we broke upppp

ahh i musta missed that part, my bad. you have a pm

And the e-pimping commences :lol:

nah im just trying to ensure that all this booze i have gets consumed properly. Id invite the rest of you fuckers but you're too far away cept for maybe tommy :lmao: