getting a TRO
 

In your personal experience... does getting a TRO against someone work how they should / keep them away or does it piss them off more? Pro's and con's of a TRO?

I have no experience with TRO's.

I have no advice, but I hope you are not asking for yourself. :(

I assume you're talking about a restraining order. It really depends on the person. Someone that's halfway decent and doesn't want to go to jail and have a record...it can help. They now know you mean business.

It also helps for documentation should you ever have to off them. :idk:

Now the next guy may not give a crap about the record/jail and it won't make much difference to them.

Yes there are some that may get pizzed and go off (straw that broke the camel's back) etc.

Is it someone pizzed or some creepy person that just won't go away ?

Good luck regardless.

Here you have to actually be in fear of your life. This prevents neighbors and or just pissy people from overusing them

BTW...do I need to plan a trip soon?!? I own land and have access to a backhoe

That's what I thought, but my friend already talked to a police friend and he said we (yes, me too) have enough to request a TRO. It's not something I am sure I want to do.

I hate that I am even having to consider getting one. I just want this person to go away and leave me (and my friends alone). :mad:

best o luck w/ the sit.

you can always hide out here in houston :)

If they are harassing you...do it

If they're just being a dick....I wouldn't pursue it. I would just what I could to distance myself from them without resulting to action.

However this is all dependant on whether this is male or female. If male, I would pursue it to have a record of this in case something bigger comes about.


I'm sorry you're having to deal with this juvenile crap

Me too! :confused:

TRO = awesome!
Cover your ass, if you feel threatened than get one.

Hi Jet! :)

Restraining orders aren't worth the paper they're written on. Chances are good that if you're afraid enough of someone that you need one, they aren't going to let a court order stop them from getting at you. Law enforcement also drags their feet enforcing them. If they want to do you harm, the damage is going to be done before the cops show up.

Get yourself a gun, get trained how to use it, get a license to carry it if your state allows it and protect yourself when it is necessary.

That works when you live in a fictional world of espionage and double agents, but her names not Jason Bourne. It’s Misshell and she’s scared.

Documentation, and a paper trail will protect you IF you have to take action. This would be the first step in that trail, and the first action.

jtemple is right though, it’s typically not worth the paper it’s written on for doing the job…..but it’s a starting point in court for the next few steps (when and if they need to be taken)

I would do it for the paper trail, but like jtemple said, its probably not going to do much for protection.

A restraining order is nothing but a paper trail. That's fine, for what it is. You are kidding yourself if you think it offers you any kind of real protection.

100% agreed

In this situation though..I think she needs more CYA than "protection"

Its my understanding that with the RO the police can remove that person for being anywhere near you. Without that they can't do much unless they are doing something wrong.

IMO your better off with it. Yes some people could be set off by it♠ but if that happens they are close to blowing up anyway so these people are a problem anyway you look at it.

James

A paper trail is good when you have to protect yourself as well.

James

They can, but will they? What I'm telling you is this: If a person means you harm and you have a restraining order against them, what the cops are going to find is your dead carcass and a piece of restraining order paper with a shit stain on it when they get to you.

My mother has had a restraining order against someone, as has my sister. My sister's ex violated the order 16 times before he was arrested. This was because nobody saw him break the order. All they would do is write a report.

If nobody sees the guy violate the order and he's long gone before the cops get there, what's the difference if he decides to do more than just scare you? Guess what? The cops are going to show up too late, again.

If that jackass is scary enough that you want a restraining order, he's scary enough to be worth shooting to save your own hide.

My friend had a restraining order from her ex boyfriend which he violated 7 times. The last one, he broke into her house and shot her while she was sleeping. Hit her in the chest but she survived. He got out several months later (i think it was 18 months) when the charges were dropped from attempted murder to aggravated assault.

The law isnt' effective in protecting women.

Fixed it for you

What if you can't prove your life was in danger after shooting his ass? They won't let you take the gun to the jail cell so who is going to protect your ass then?

You have to do what you can to protect yourself, but in the end you still have to defend what you did.

No the RO isn't going to protect you by itself. It can help the police if they are called. And if he/she is coming by the house acting up it would be a good idea to have a camera or 3 located at your house. This will make it easier to prove he/she was there.

James

Michelle, I had to get one last year againt someone who wouldn't take no for an answer, so I'm very familiar with the process. If you have any questions email me. :)

Having said that, knowing now what I do, I should have gotten it much sooner. Talk about a huge weight being lifted off my shoulders.

You can call me too if you want. You've got my number. :)

Thanks Trace! :)

A TRO will only work against a person who is generally law abiding or is..... you know, sane. It can be valuable in getting someone who is genuinely dangerous off the streets though, because that sort tend to repeatedly violate the order and end up paying for it. It's insurance against a future incident, in that case.

If you're thinking that you need one, then you probably do.

Fug it, get a TRO, gun, CCW, mace/taser while your CCW is pending than call it a day.

Details?

I've been calling her too much.....I mean I THOUGHT every 7 minutes was at LEAST giving her 6 minute breaks :shrug:

Well there's your problem. You obviously weren't calling enough! She could have totally been talking to other guys in those six minutes.

she was, ME :)

troy ya know when you went to the boys room in that rest. , yeah she called........lol

If you are trained in the proper use of deadly force, you'll know when it's time to shoot someone. Make it a clear case of self defense and you'll be fine. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

You can still use deadly force AFTER having the RO. They don't ask you to hand over your gun because you are now safe with the RO.

James

I'm not saying don't get a RO. By all means, get one. Make the biggest paper trail you can, throw up signal flares everywhere! I'm just saying, don't count on it as some sort of security blanket, because it isn't one.

Oh I agree, it does help but it won't stop anyone that doesn't want to obey it.

I helped out my cousin, her boyfriend hit her and so on. It ended with running out of the house toward me with a gun to try to scare me. I didn't move. It turns out it was a bb gun. That didn't work so he came out with bear mace. That didn't work and he wouldn't get close enough for me to get my hands on. He is in trouble all the time so I made a call to the Police because I will have to deal with him and I want the shit on paper.

They would have put a RO against him for me if I would have gave them a statement that night which I didn't do. Myself I didn't care about the RO, they know the stupid he did, thats what I wanted.

Now if he tries to come after me I'm going to take care of it myself.

James

I don't want to post up too much on-line. This person is ex-GF of one of my friends. She is being crazy, which is am sure is based on jealousy. She has not threatened my life, but she is making life un-pleasant and I am concerned it might escalate. :tremble:

Thank you all for the replies and PMs.

Oh, in that case, have you thought about fucking her sister??


Sorry! But, I'm actually happier to hear its a woman instead of a man.

Trust me here. Men are easy to handle, because you see them coming. Some women can be just fucking conniving evil. It's no improvement.

Local guy in the news hear had one taken out on him by an ex GF. He violated it a couple of times...got picked up and went to jail.

Well he was out of jail and this week went to her place and stabbed her 25 times and now is in custody for murder.

2 kids now with a dead mother and a father locked away for killing her. :no:

Shoulda shot that bastard.

I'm sure that is comforting to misshell :lol:

Hey woman!

I had one, that did it's job. I believe it's one of those questions that should have an automatic yes. I mean, if the question "Should I really call 9-1-1 for this?" gets asked... it's YES.

We are all too afraid to hurt someone's feelings for them being assholes.

It's like me being told that it's rude to call someone rude. :lol:

Disclaimer:I have a very jaded view as I work in a corrections setting.
RO as a rule work in the cases of where the individual in question is still using a pro social value system. IE thy basically are law abiding and fear going to jail. Or if they fear they have something to lose. Those who have done time, usually have figured out that going to jail is not as frightening as it one was ( in far to many case I see going to jail or prison improves the over all quality of their lives) So the RO has little or no deterrent value.
The other issue to remember is that an RO can be acted upon only after it has been violated. So if you get one remember the police can not act until it has been violated and I would recommend strongly that You take what ever steps you would take to protect yourself if it wasn't there. If there is documented violations (in most states it takes 2 or 3 violations where no bodily injury is involved before a judge is going jail someone less if injury is present)
In all cases advocate and protect yourself. The police are a reactive organisation who can only respond once the law has been broken. The longest and most important 20 minutes of most people lives are the time between when they dial 911 and the time the police arrive. Protect yourself!

:lol: Well I didn't post it until AFTER I learned it was a female in her situation and not her ex boyfriend/husband.

It is also to show that the piece of paper can be worth it in some cases...it just depends on the individual that it is sworn out on. Some just don't give a chit. :idk:

Fact

Thanks all! I am taking all this in for consideration.

So true.

I say get the RO for the sake of a paper trail.

In summary:

• Get the TRO.
• Get a gun
• Get a taser
• Fuck her sister
• Buy a samurai sword just in case.

I'll get right on that! :p

I might do #1, don't think the other items will be happening.
:lol

but #4 is still a possibility?

Whats up Jet?

#4 should be done with video and pics. I don't think a live webcast is too much to ask. :rockwoot:

James

Okay... will work on #4 too. :p With video. :lol:

TROs only tell the Cops where to pick up the body...