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Triple 10-05-2009 10:13 AM

Fast blinking blinkers.
 
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Mikey 10-05-2009 10:17 AM

You usually see this when someone swaps out their stockers for LEDs. The LEDs have a much lower resistance rating than the standard bulbs, which is what causes the fast blinking. Figure out what the difference in resistance is and wire in a resistor inline and they will blink at the correct speed. ;)

fasternyou929 10-05-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 274056)
What causes this and how do you fix it?

Incorrect load on the "blinker" relay. You can usually add a resistor to the positive lead running to your turn signal to correct it. Did you recently change to LED turn signals or something else after market? Google turn signal and resistor and I'm sure you'll get some good values to start with. Resistors can be bought for a few cents at Radio Shack.

ETA: Dammit, Mikey apparently types much faster than me.

pauldun170 10-05-2009 10:19 AM

In the car, it usually means a bulb is out.

Rider 10-05-2009 10:19 AM

LED blinkers have less resistance than the regular bulbs. You need to add a 5 ohm 100w resister in series for each blinker to slow down the blinking rate.

z06boy 10-05-2009 10:23 AM

I have fast blinking blinkers due to switching the stockers for aftermarket ones. I've gotten used to it and I'm fine with it.

I know the kit came with some resisters that would reduce the flow to slow the signals down BUT they get really hot and I didn't want the additional heat since the bike is so hot anyways plus with all of the plastic on the bike. :idk:

fasternyou929 10-05-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 274060)
LED blinkers have less resistance than the regular bulbs. You need to add a 5 ohm 100w resister in series for each blinker to slow down the blinking rate.

100W? That's way overkill. I'm sure even a 25W would be plenty.

Mounting the resistor where some air will pass over it will help with any heat issues, but like z06 pointed out, I'd keep it away from plastics.

Rider 10-05-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 274066)
100W? That's way overkill. I'm sure even a 25W would be plenty.

Mounting the resistor where some air will pass over it will help with any heat issues, but like z06 pointed out, I'd keep it away from plastics.

That's what came with my Clear Alternatives integrated tail light. It worked fine for me. It was a little warm but I zip tied them to part of the frame to keep them off the plastic.

fasternyou929 10-05-2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 274100)
That's what I thought and this was initially the case with my bike. The front-left blinker bulb was out, causing the rear-left blinker to flash at double speed. However, I replaced the front bulb and now they both flash at double speed.

I have aftermarket blinkers front and back, but I've had them on there for almost two years and the fast blinking didn't start until a bulb went out last week.

Then the bulb you used as a replacement doesn't have the same resistance as your stock ones. Same solutions apply.

karl_1052 10-05-2009 12:48 PM

It could also be a bad flasher relay.

fasternyou929 10-05-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 274121)
Will the fast blinking cause any problems, like heat or shortened bulb life? If not, I'll just leave it alone. Even changing the bulb on this aftermarket signal required some fairing disassembly.

No side effects, just faster blinking.

Kerry_129 10-05-2009 02:18 PM

The resistor solution is a kludge, basically adding 2 little 'heaters' to the wiring harness. IMO, a much better/cleaner solution (and cheaper, vs. buying properly rated ~5W 'load' resistors which won't burn out eventually) is to replace the stock flasher element with an 'electronic' flasher which isn't load-dependent, and had a constant rate of flash. Tridon EL12 (2 prong, for turn signal only) or EL13 (3-prong, for hazards) flashers are available at pretty much any auto parts place for under $10. The only down-side to that route, is that if you still have incandescent bulbs in the circuit (like LED front, stock rear) the flash rate won't change to indicate that a bulb is burned out.

Amber Lamps 10-05-2009 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry_129 (Post 274191)
The resistor solution is a kludge, basically adding 2 little 'heaters' to the wiring harness. IMO, a much better/cleaner solution (and cheaper, vs. buying properly rated ~5W 'load' resistors which won't burn out eventually) is to replace the stock flasher element with an 'electronic' flasher which isn't load-dependent, and had a constant rate of flash. Tridon EL12 (2 prong, for turn signal only) or EL13 (3-prong, for hazards) flashers are available at pretty much any auto parts place for under $10. The only down-side to that route, is that if you still have incandescent bulbs in the circuit (like LED front, stock rear) the flash rate won't change to indicate that a bulb is burned out.

Damn Kerry you is one smart motherfucker! What they call a quarter pounder in Coppenhagen?:lol:

Yea I swapped out my flasher and replaced all of my signals with leds. The resisters go bad after a awhile in my experience.

Kerry_129 10-05-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 274280)
Damn Kerry you is one smart motherfucker!

Thanks, but sorry Tig, but I gotta disagree with you here too - If I was smart, I'd be busting my ass on this design I should be working on instead of pissing my 2/3 of my time away arguing about shit online! :lol:

Amber Lamps 10-05-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry_129 (Post 274306)
Thanks, but sorry Tig, but I gotta disagree with you here too - If I was smart, I'd be busting my ass on this design I should be working on instead of pissing my 2/3 of my time away arguing about shit online! :lol:

Yea well if I were smart, I'd be either boning this young girl or looking for a job, two months of unemployment left!!!

fasternyou929 10-05-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry_129and TIGGER
TWF > Working
TWF > Looking for work
TWF > Boning some young girl

2 outta 3 :wtfru:

101lifts2 10-06-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 274058)
Incorrect load on the "blinker" relay. ....


You mean the flasher unit.

101lifts2 10-06-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 274280)
Damn Kerry you is one smart motherfucker! What they call a quarter pounder in Coppenhagen?:lol:

Yea I swapped out my flasher and replaced all of my signals with leds. The resisters go bad after a awhile in my experience.

Use higher wattage resistors.

Amber Lamps 10-06-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 274573)
Use higher wattage resistors.

You're probably right, like Rider, I installed the ones that came with my Clear Alternatives tail light. They didn't last on my '03... On this bike I went with the flasher relay, no problems in 3 years...

fasternyou929 10-06-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 274572)
You mean the flasher unit.

Nobody wants to see your flasher unit redflip

101lifts2 10-06-2009 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 274578)
Nobody wants to see your flasher unit redflip

Actually Pauldun....

Gas Man 10-06-2009 06:13 PM

Mine did that on the 9R. But I enjoyed it. Figure I got more blinks per second for those split second lane changes...

askmrjesus 10-07-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 274578)
Nobody wants to see your flasher unit redflip

:lol:

I'd be surprised if anyone's ever seen it... :lol:

JC


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