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pauldun170 10-14-2009 01:22 PM

return of Toyota?
 
http://jalopnik.com/5381432/toyota-f...s-mega+gallery

Homeslice 10-14-2009 02:05 PM

Guess it took Hyundai to make people realize that small, RWD 4-cylinder cars are a viable niche.

Glad to see that FWD is gradually dying out.

pauldun170 10-14-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 278387)
Guess it took Hyundai to make people realize that small, RWD 4-cylinder cars are a viable niche.

Glad to see that FWD is gradually dying out.

FWD isn't going anywhere.
It's great from a packaging standpoint.

Homeslice 10-14-2009 03:50 PM

It is declining as a % of cars though.

And driving dynamics > packaging.

pauldun170 10-14-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 278441)
It is declining as a % of cars though.

And driving dynamics > packaging.

Hate to tell you but you live in the United States.

Sales>anything enthusiast like in a car.
automatic>Manual
Nanny Devices>feedback
Straightline on highway cruising>behavior in the twisties

Homeslice 10-14-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 278447)
Hate to tell you but you live in the United States.

Sales>anything enthusiast like in a car.
automatic>Manual
Nanny Devices>feedback
Straightline on highway cruising>behavior in the twisties

Don't forget 20" wheels, Xenon lights, headrest DVD players, and "Monsoon" stereo systems (with sub-par speakers, but what they don't know won't hurt them)

101lifts2 10-14-2009 08:58 PM

Exterior is nice..interior looks like something out of a Star Trek flick. No thanks.

Adeptus_Minor 10-15-2009 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 278447)
Hate to tell you but you live in the United States.

Sales>anything enthusiasts like in a car.
automatic>Manual
Nanny Devices>feedback
Straightline on highway cruising>behavior in the twisties

Sad but true...
Want a real driver's car for under $35k? Good luck.

RACER X 10-15-2009 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 278697)
Sad but true...
Want a real driver's car for under $35k? Good luck.

miata FTW!

Adeptus_Minor 10-15-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 278728)
miata FTW!

Ah... yes, I forgot. :D
Well, one the way I'd want it would be almost $30k anyway :nee:

racedoll 10-17-2009 09:28 PM

I'm surprised it isn't AWD since Subaru is involved. I kind of like the looks of it though would never consider it because it is not versatile enough.

pauldun170 10-17-2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racedoll (Post 279629)
I'm surprised it isn't AWD since Subaru is involved. I kind of like the looks of it though would never consider it because it is not versatile enough.

Kinda like the idea of not having to worry about driveline shock (screw AWD...I'm an "It's all in the tires" kinda guy).

Chris S 10-19-2009 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 278387)
Guess it took Hyundai to make people realize that small, RWD 4-cylinder cars are a viable niche.

Glad to see that FWD is gradually dying out.

Is the Genesis coupe really much (if at all) smaller than the G35/G37 Coupe? I thought they were just a well-priced alternative, but similarly sized. I haven't seen many around yet, either.

Chris S 10-19-2009 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 278787)
Ah... yes, I forgot. :D
Well, one the way I'd want it would be almost $30k anyway :nee:

Real world pricing would be much less.

Plenty of good options for under $35K!

- Miata (my choice)
- S2000, before they're all gone
- 370Z
- Genesis Coupe
- Mini Cooper S
- Evo X
- STI
- RX-8 (note that this is a list of good drivers' cars, not saying anything about reliability or gas mileage)

Adeptus_Minor 10-19-2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris S (Post 279988)
Real world pricing would be much less.

Plenty of good options for under $35K!

- Miata (my choice)
- S2000, before they're all gone
- 370Z
- Genesis Coupe
- Mini Cooper S
- Evo X
- STI
- RX-8 (note that this is a list of good drivers' cars, not saying anything about reliability or gas mileage)


You're probably right, Chris. Online car shopping leaves me with an awful case of sticker shock.
Unfortunately I haven't done much serious shopping/haggling in a long time.
Despite being very tired of my Dakota, I'm kind of liking not having any car or bike notes to worry with :wink:

Dave 10-19-2009 02:41 PM

im somewhat intrigued by this. Would have liked it more without the flat four but we'll see

Chris S 10-26-2009 12:33 AM

I dig the flat four - lower cg for better handling, lower hoodline for better aeros/looks, and it sounds more unique.


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