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Tmall 11-11-2009 02:48 PM

Who wants to see..
 
Where a Pilot Road 2 begins to slip under throttle at 44 degrees??? I thought about laying it down to save it, but my pucker factor kept me on the seat when it wiggled.

At least now I know my limits with this tire in this weather..
http://i34.tinypic.com/otoigo.jpg

Ps.. I need to learn to use this camera or to buy a good one..

Sean 11-11-2009 02:56 PM

Jesus, is that a knobbie? If you're slipping even in street use, it might be time to move to a more aggressive tire next time :)

I must have missed what's funny about the whole "lay it down" thing I'm seeing everywhere.

tached1000rr 11-11-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 290827)
Jesus, is that a knobbie? If you're slipping even in street use, it might be time to move to a more aggressive tire next time :)

I must have missed what's funny about the whole "lay it down" thing I'm seeing everywhere.

:lol check out my thread "how would you lay your bike down" in the street section

Tmall 11-11-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 290827)
Jesus, is that a knobbie? If you're slipping even in street use, it might be time to move to a more aggressive tire next time :)

I must have missed what's funny about the whole "lay it down" thing I'm seeing everywhere.

Road 2's are notorious for not liking the cold. It's a trade off. My corsa iii's could have gone to the edges at 30 degrees and I'm sure they would have stuck well. These things I've had lock up at street lights under normal braking at anything approaching 45 degrees or so.


But, I got less than 3000 miles out of a corsa 3, and I shit you not the road 2 has more than 7000 miles on it.

Sean 11-11-2009 03:11 PM

:wtfru: I was thinking 44 degrees of lean angle

Tmall 11-11-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 290832)
:wtfru: I was thinking 44 degrees of lean angle


:lol I was thinking, I wanna see how far I can lean these things over in the cold so I can stop worrying about it and enjoy riding!

Cutty72 11-11-2009 03:22 PM

hmmm, makes me leary about road 2's then. believe it or not it gets cold in ND, and i ride then.

May stick to powers... i'll get 7K out of them easy, and as long as I wait a mile they stick almost as well as the corsa's.

Tmall 11-11-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 290836)
hmmm, makes me leary about road 2's then. believe it or not it gets cold in ND, and i ride then.

May stick to powers... i'll get 7K out of them easy, and as long as I wait a mile they stick almost as well as the corsa's.



I'm not too worried. I don't usually ride when it's colder than it is now. And it was a decreasing radius corner, so I had to tighten my line a bit, which is when I felt the shimmy/slide/slip.

It didn't really shake me too bad. Just slipped then regained traction.

pauldun170 11-11-2009 03:31 PM

There was some leaves on the ground and I was about to lay it down to avoid it but the wind picked up and blew them outta the way

Tmall 11-11-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 290843)
There was some leaves on the ground and I was about to lay it down to avoid it but the wind picked up and blew them outta the way

Are you alright??

Rider 11-11-2009 03:46 PM

44 degrees? Shit, NO tire likes it when it's 44 degrees. Even the Bridgestone BT016's slip when it's that cold.

Cutty72 11-11-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 290847)
44 degrees? Shit, NO tire likes it when it's 44 degrees. Even the Bridgestone BT016's slip when it's that cold.

Bullshit. Both my Corsa III's and my PP's on the 1125 got broke in with weather in the 20's!

Never had a slip out of either one, and I pushed them far harder than I should have.

Here is a pic of the first ride on my PP's. Yes that's snow. Yes those are snowmobile tracks in the gravel.
In fact, I raced a sled that was in the ditch right before this... I won.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a.../3-8-09012.jpg

tommymac 11-11-2009 04:28 PM

The pilot powers seemed to do rather well in the cold as did the original pilot roads. At least for me they did.

Tom

Rider 11-12-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 290872)
Bullshit. Both my Corsa III's and my PP's on the 1125 got broke in with weather in the 20's!

Never had a slip out of either one, and I pushed them far harder than I should have.

Here is a pic of the first ride on my PP's. Yes that's snow. Yes those are snowmobile tracks in the gravel.
In fact, I raced a sled that was in the ditch right before this... I won.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a.../3-8-09012.jpg

All I can go off of is my own experience. Maybe your bike isn't powerful enough to break the tires loose. :idk: It is a 600 class bike after all. My BT016's slipped all the time when it was that cold. PP's were much better in the cold but those were also on a less powerful bike.

Tmall 11-12-2009 09:15 AM

Power pulses of a twin help traction considerably..

Sean 11-12-2009 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 291000)
All I can go off of is my own experience. Maybe your bike isn't powerful enough to break the tires loose. :idk: It is a 600 class bike after all. My BT016's slipped all the time when it was that cold. PP's were much better in the cold but those were also on a less powerful bike.

I've spun up the rear on my 675 on BT016s. I don't really ride in anything y'all would call "cold" :badger:

karl_1052 11-12-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 291000)
All I can go off of is my own experience. Maybe your bike isn't powerful enough to break the tires loose. :idk: It is a 600 class bike after all. My BT016's slipped all the time when it was that cold. PP's were much better in the cold but those were also on a less powerful bike.

My 015 would spin in a straight line at 75mph when it was just past the wear bars, in September.

Now I have a Dunlop Qualifier and it has much better traction.

pauldun170 11-12-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmall (Post 290844)
Are you alright??

Yeah..

The bike was still in the garage and I hadn't started it up yet. I saw the leaves in the road and I started the process to lean it over to lay it down but then the wind picked up and blew the leave away. I didn't even have a chance to get the kickstand all the way up.

So i just put it back on the kick stand and finished putting on my helmet.

The other day there were leaves and the garbage truck was in front of the house collecting garbage. I said "ole shit!!", put on some jeans, ran into the garage and knocked both bikes over.
Had to lay em down.

HurricaneHeather 11-12-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 291035)
Yeah..

The bike was still in the garage and I hadn't started it up yet. I saw the leaves in the road and I started the process to lean it over to lay it down but then the wind picked up and blew the leave away. I didn't even have a chance to get the kickstand all the way up.

So i just put it back on the kick stand and finished putting on my helmet.

The other day there were leaves and the garbage truck was in front of the house collecting garbage. I said "ole shit!!", put on some jeans, ran into the garage and knocked both bikes over.
Had to lay em down.

:lol

askmrjesus 11-12-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 291035)
Yeah..

The bike was still in the garage and I hadn't started it up yet. I saw the leaves in the road and I started the process to lean it over to lay it down but then the wind picked up and blew the leave away. I didn't even have a chance to get the kickstand all the way up.

So i just put it back on the kick stand and finished putting on my helmet.

The other day there were leaves and the garbage truck was in front of the house collecting garbage. I said "ole shit!!", put on some jeans, ran into the garage and knocked both bikes over.
Had to lay em down.

Nice save!

Good thing the leaves weren't attached to a man eating cable on the edge of a cliff.

BTW, fuck you both. :lol:

JC

Tmall 11-12-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 291035)
Yeah..

The bike was still in the garage and I hadn't started it up yet. I saw the leaves in the road and I started the process to lean it over to lay it down but then the wind picked up and blew the leave away. I didn't even have a chance to get the kickstand all the way up.

So i just put it back on the kick stand and finished putting on my helmet.

The other day there were leaves and the garbage truck was in front of the house collecting garbage. I said "ole shit!!", put on some jeans, ran into the garage and knocked both bikes over.
Had to lay em down.

This post should be stickied all on its own.. :lol

marko138 11-12-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 291035)
Yeah..

The bike was still in the garage and I hadn't started it up yet. I saw the leaves in the road and I started the process to lean it over to lay it down but then the wind picked up and blew the leave away. I didn't even have a chance to get the kickstand all the way up.

So i just put it back on the kick stand and finished putting on my helmet.

The other day there were leaves and the garbage truck was in front of the house collecting garbage. I said "ole shit!!", put on some jeans, ran into the garage and knocked both bikes over.
Had to lay em down.

Brilliant.

101lifts2 11-15-2009 02:46 AM

I usually won't ride under 60F. LOL

Cutty72 11-15-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 292049)
I usually won't ride under 60F. LOL

I'd only get a month of riding! :lol:


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