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tached1000rr 12-03-2009 01:41 PM

So when do you consider that you have blown a turn/curve?
 
This was a topic of discussion on a local forum and i thought i would be interesting to hear from the TWF folks on this one.
Should make for some interesting responses

CrazyKell 12-03-2009 01:45 PM

If I could commit to the line I wanted to take OR if I had to change course drastically because of the line I took.

I don't consider going through a corner slower as blowing it. There are corners at the track that I deliberately practise and practise and practise until I can gain speed. Smooth first, fast later. :idk:

Rider 12-03-2009 01:50 PM

Every turn or curve is blown, otherwise I'd be riding MotoGP.

OTB 12-03-2009 01:55 PM

Anytime I've got to do an unplanned -for maneuver; on any new stuff I'll need to make little corrections; but if I've totally misjudged the turn and have to squeeze a handful of brakes, pick the bike up or slam the bars in harder than I planned; well, I know when I've miffed a turn....and I know because I'm pissed with myself..............

defector 12-03-2009 01:56 PM

When I am skidding on my ass out the other end of said curve or turn.

CrazyKell 12-03-2009 01:57 PM

On the street, if you cross a line, you've blown the corner. Plain and simple.

Tmall 12-03-2009 01:57 PM

When I leave my lane.

Kell beat me to it.

Cutty72 12-03-2009 01:59 PM

Major correction (brake, throttle, or steering) and going out of a lane.

the chi 12-03-2009 02:48 PM

Im something of a perfectionist, so if I hit a road I'm comfortable with or on the track and I have to make an adjustment mid turn, to me, I blew it.

Having spent several track days at my home track, I know the sweet spots, and if I miss it I irritate myself because I just interfered with the next few turns as well. :shrug:

Im definitely not the fastest, but I prefer the rest of it be as close to "my" perfect as I can get it.

Curb 12-03-2009 02:52 PM

i was thinking along the lines of the track, so i put "when you crash". but in the terms of street riding, pretty much what kell & tmall said.

N2O Junkie 12-03-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyKell (Post 301176)
On the street, if you cross a line, you've blown the corner. Plain and simple.

I agree... crossing the line is a bit oh-shit.

CrazyKell 12-03-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chi (Post 301205)
Im something of a perfectionist, so if I hit a road I'm comfortable with or on the track and I have to make an adjustment mid turn, to me, I blew it.

Having spent several track days at my home track, I know the sweet spots, and if I miss it I irritate myself because I just interfered with the next few turns as well. :shrug:

Im definitely not the fastest, but I prefer the rest of it be as close to "my" perfect as I can get it.


I'm the same way. I have corners I know and love. I have corners I know and hate. :lmao:

I like to get as close to "my" perfect as I can. When I blow it, I shake my head and try and move on but it always affects me for a bit.

N2O Junkie 12-03-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyKell (Post 301220)
I'm the same way. I have corners I know and love. I have corners I know and hate. :lmao:

I like to get as close to "my" perfect as I can. When I blow it, I shake my head and try and move on but it always affects me for a bit.

I dont have time to shake my head... i gas it and lean more

Trip 12-03-2009 03:21 PM

Once I leave my lane or drift wide if it's on track would I consider it a "blown" turn, minor corrections are necessary even if you don't realize you are making them in every turn you go through. Too many conditions change and adjustments are made without us even realizing we are compensating for those changes to consider a minor adjustment a blown turn.

neebelung 12-03-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyKell (Post 301176)
On the street, if you cross a line, you've blown the corner. Plain and simple.

Yeah my vote was either for this, or if you go off the road.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 301222)
...minor corrections are necessary even if you don't realize you are making them in every turn you go through. Too many conditions change and adjustments are made without us even realizing we are compensating for those changes to consider a minor adjustment a blown turn.

werd.

CrazyKell 12-03-2009 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2O Junkie (Post 301221)
I dont have time to shake my head... i gas it and lean more

I'm talking after not during! That'd be crazy!

dReWpY 12-03-2009 03:29 PM

when i notice a 50 passing me on the inside....

N2O Junkie 12-03-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyKell (Post 301226)
I'm talking after not during! That'd be crazy!

ur nuts.... blowing a turn gets me amped up for the next one... roll on baby!

CasterTroy 12-03-2009 04:11 PM

Track: if I have to slow down to correct
Street: if I cross either line

HokieDNA01 12-03-2009 04:20 PM

Correcting within the lane is not blowing the curve (although I might still be annoyed with my actions). If I leave my lane I have "blown" the corner and consider it almost as bad as if I go off the road. I have one lane to work within.

HokieDNA01 12-03-2009 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 301227)
when i notice a 50 passing me on the inside....

Damn that Derby!!!

CasterTroy 12-03-2009 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HokieDNA01 (Post 301255)
I have one lane to work within.

I wish you could teach the women driving cages HERE that little philosophy

HokieDNA01 12-03-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasterTroy (Post 301257)
I wish you could teach the women driving cages HERE that little philosophy

Hell I wish I could teach the men driving Dualies here that philosophy too. My second wreck was due to a dualie being in my lane as I entered a corner and as I corrected, I hit some gravel and went down. :td:

karl_1052 12-03-2009 05:14 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3...0/img_4546.jpg

OreoGaborio 12-03-2009 05:43 PM

I'm not too picky about my lines on the street, but you should never find yourself outside of your lane unexpectedly. If you do find yourself outside of your lane unexpectedly, then you should consider riding with a larger margin of safety.

I voted #2: "When more than a slight adjustment is needed", as I've "blown" a turn but not left my lane plenty of times.

No Worries 12-03-2009 06:44 PM

Are Goldwings the motorcycle equivalent of dualies?

As for making corrections in a curve, I do it all the time on decreasing-radius curves, or when someone comes over the double-yellow. And I don't consider that a blown curve. Going off the pavement, being in the wrong gear, looking somewhere else instead of around the curve, gassing it too quickly, or not braking with enough force blows the curve for me.

Particle Man 12-04-2009 09:25 AM

crossing into another lane does it for me.

Tmall 12-04-2009 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 301284)


Rider on the goldwing deserves to be stabbed in the throat with a rusty dick... :wtfru:

HokieDNA01 12-04-2009 10:17 AM

The guy on the Gixxer blows his line too on the way back up the road if you check out the next pic down on Killboy. Both need some driving lessions.

Particle Man 12-04-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HokieDNA01 (Post 301512)
The guy on the Gixxer blows his line too on the way back up the road if you check out the next pic down on Killboy. Both need some driving lessions.

He was probably just following the 'wing's example :lol:

racedoll 12-04-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chi (Post 301205)
Im something of a perfectionist, so if I hit a road I'm comfortable with or on the track and I have to make an adjustment mid turn, to me, I blew it.

Having spent several track days at my home track, I know the sweet spots, and if I miss it I irritate myself because I just interfered with the next few turns as well. :shrug:

Im definitely not the fastest, but I prefer the rest of it be as close to "my" perfect as I can get it.

I'd have to say I'm more like this although I kind of know as I enter the turn if I'm going to get through it the way I want or not. If I don't, then I blew it.

Crossing any lines on the road is crappy along with not getting through the corner as smoothly or at the speed I think I could have taken it at.


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