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EpyonXero 01-06-2010 10:10 AM

Electric Sportsbike. 210 ft/lbs tourque.
 
http://www.gizmag.com/roehr-set-to-u...orcycle/13702/

Looks like a backflip waiting to happen.

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Roehr Motorcycles, producers of the American-built 180 bhp 1250sc sportbike, is to introduce two electric motorcycles before mid-year, topped by a 96 bhp motorcycle with race level performance, 210 lb/ft of torque, and premium suspension and brake components which it has dubbed the eSuperbike. Significantly, even a lower spec eSupersport model with 48 bhp, 105 lb/ft of torque will top 100 mph. No details have yet been announced on the range of the bikes, but viable electric sports motorcycles are clearly going to be available before the end of the year.

The new electric range will be known as eRoehr and the range-topping superbike will use a high energy discharge, 10 Kwh, lithium iron phosphate battery pack and form the basis of Roehr Motorcycles' entry into the upcoming 2010 US TTXGP series. Roehr Motorcycles will also be offering race prepared versions of the eSuperbike for teams or individuals competing in the upcoming TTXGP, and FIM e-Power racing series'.

Pricing and additional information will be announced over the coming weeks.
http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/lrg/9...esuperbike.jpg

TYEster 01-06-2010 10:15 AM

Doubt it, the numbers are impressive with electric vehicles, but they always manage to screw up putting that power down through poor drive train/gearing options.

CasterTroy 01-06-2010 10:18 AM

Bet it'll weigh +700lbs

marko138 01-06-2010 10:31 AM

Should be interesting.

Dave 01-06-2010 11:21 AM

so is this the new american boutique sportsbike template? Fail hard at building a gas bike and attempt to go electric?

Dave 01-06-2010 11:24 AM

btw that pic is the gas bike. Electrics dont need akrapovic

Rider 01-06-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 315073)
btw that pic is the gas bike. Electrics dont need akrapovic

Or radiators.

pdog 01-06-2010 11:40 AM

You don't get gov't subsidies or VC these days by building ICE-based bikes (Internal Combustion Engine).

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 315072)
so is this the new american boutique sportsbike template? Fail hard at building a gas bike and attempt to go electric?


pdog 01-06-2010 11:45 AM

Wanna bet? Any time you transform energy (to motion, convert voltage, etc), you get heat due to efficiency losses. That's why AC adapter power bricks get warm to the touch.

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A single AC motor located directly in front of the rear wheel powers the Enertia TTR. Manufactured by Perm Motor in Germany, the compact motor is a brushless, permanent-magnet design that is more efficient and durable than the simpler, less-expensive, brush-type motors most other TTXGP entries used. The peak efficiency rating is 94 percent (compared to approximately 25 percent efficiency for the very best internal-combustion engines), and the motor is liquid-cooled to minimize heat-related losses, with a tiny radiator mounted below the headstock. The motor's continuous-power rating is 20 kW, with a peak power rating of 30 kW. In TTXGP tune, this translates to 30 horsepower and 53 lb.-ft. of torque at the rear wheel. Custom sideplates allow the motor to be mounted as a stressed member, and there is no gearbox or primary drive; the drive sprocket mounts directly to the motor output shaft. A cush drive on the rear hub minimizes driveline lash.
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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 315084)
Or radiators.


Rider 01-06-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pdog (Post 315091)
Wanna bet? Any time you transform energy (to motion, convert voltage, etc), you get heat due to efficiency losses. That's why AC adapter power bricks get warm to the touch.

A tiny radiator below the headstock is different than the 2 big radiators on the side of the bike in the picture.

goof2 01-06-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 315072)
so is this the new american boutique sportsbike template? Fail hard at building a gas bike and attempt to go electric?

Charge someone $45,000 for a traditional gasoline powered bike and the customer wants it to do meaningless things like perform to at least the level of a $10k 600. Someone paying a similar amount for an electric bike cares about one important thing, how much smug the bike lets them carry.

marko138 01-06-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 315073)
btw that pic is the gas bike. Electrics dont need akrapovic

Wrong. Everything needs Akrapovic.

Dave 01-06-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 315107)
Charge someone $45,000 for a traditional gasoline powered bike and the customer wants it to do meaningless things like perform to at least the level of a $10k 600. Someone paying a similar amount for an electric bike cares about one important thing, how much smug the bike lets them carry.

well i supose i can endorse this behavior if it ends in the firey highway deaths of ed begley jr and that flat bitch from baywatch

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 315189)
Wrong. Everything needs Akrapovic.

i wonder if they make a can for my cat?

marko138 01-06-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 315196)
well i supose i can endorse this behavior if it ends in the firey highway deaths of ed begley jr and that flat bitch from baywatch



i wonder if they make a can for my cat?

For the right price I bet they could. :lol:

Dave 01-06-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 315201)
For the right price I bet they could. :lol:

kill alexandria paul? Or help with max's ''emissions''? :Lmao:

Homeslice 01-06-2010 02:31 PM

How much is this going to cost, like $50K?

The styling is 7-8 years behind, IMO.

Dave 01-06-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 315231)
How much is this going to cost, like $50K?

The styling is 7-8 years behind, IMO.

and ripped off at that

Homeslice 01-06-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 315240)
and ripped off at that

Yep...........Ducati tail, Aprilia tank, and UM headlights.....

goof2 01-06-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 315231)
How much is this going to cost, like $50K?

The styling is 7-8 years behind, IMO.

The "introductory special pricing program" price for the supercharged Harley Revolution engine version was $45k. I would guess the "eSupersport" model will be $55+ and the "eSuperbike" model will be $65+.

The front certainly resembles that of a Duc 999. That debuted in 2003.

101lifts2 01-06-2010 03:04 PM

I almsot bought an electric scooter to commute on so I could plug it in at work and ride everyday for free. lol....That company went out of buisness recently, though.

marko138 01-06-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 315243)
Yep...........Ducati tail, Aprilia tank, and UM headlights.....

Pretty sure the original Roeher had Buell Firebolt headlights turned on their side.

Dave 01-06-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 315245)
The "introductory special pricing program" price for the supercharged Harley Revolution engine version was $45k. I would guess the "eSupersport" model will be $55+ and the "eSuperbike" model will be $65+.

The front certainly resembles that of a Duc 999. That debuted in 2003.

crossed with an agusta

Homeslice 01-06-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 315252)
I almsot bought an electric scooter to commute on so I could plug it in at work and ride everyday for free. lol....That company went out of buisness recently, though.

Your ass is ballin, why you worried about saving gas money.

Adeptus_Minor 01-06-2010 07:08 PM

Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:

Dave 01-06-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 315359)
Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:

and completely impractical

karl_1052 01-06-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 315359)
Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:

I wouldn't spend $45K on an 1198R, let alone an electric bike from a manufacturer that could be out of business tomorrow.

Tmall 01-06-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 315359)
Maybe it's my moderate nature, but I really don't have the strong desire to tear this one down.
It's just another stop along the road to a product which will eventually be both viable and affordable (to the less-than-six-figure earners). :idk:

I completely see what you're saying, "baby steps"..

Dave 01-06-2010 11:01 PM

i still want to see a steam bike

Adeptus_Minor 01-07-2010 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 315410)
I wouldn't spend $45K on an 1198R, let alone an electric bike from a manufacturer that could be out of business tomorrow.

Not suggesting you should, just saying that what's rare, impractical, and expensive today may be affordable and worthwhile to the average motorcyclist in the future... if the technology is allowed time and the necessary interest to develop.

karl_1052 01-07-2010 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 315518)
Not suggesting you should, just saying that what's rare, impractical, and expensive today may be affordable and worthwhile to the average motorcyclist in the future... if the technology is allowed time and the necessary interest to develop.

I still wouldn't buy it.:td:

marko138 01-07-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 315410)
I wouldn't spend $45K on an 1198R, let alone an electric bike from a manufacturer that could be out of business tomorrow.

I'd spend the cash on teh Duc if I had it.

Adeptus_Minor 01-07-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 315547)
I still wouldn't buy it.:td:

Then go suck eggs, grandpa redflip :lol:

Homeslice 01-07-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 315547)
I still wouldn't buy it.:td:

Jay Leno would. Probably already put down a deposit, in fact.

marko138 01-07-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 315922)
Jay Leno would. Probably already put down a deposit, in fact.

Because he's queer.

Homeslice 01-07-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 315924)
Because he's queer.

At least he's consistent. Most wealthy people are diletantes who change hobbies as often as they change clothes.

marko138 01-07-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 315929)
At least he's consistent. Most wealthy people are diletantes who change hobbies as often as they change clothes.

He's consistent as sucking dong too.

Adeptus_Minor 01-07-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 315930)
He's consistent as sucking dong too.

Don't hate just because he owns (and regularly drives) cars most of us just dream about :nee:

goof2 01-07-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 315922)
Jay Leno would. Probably already put down a deposit, in fact.

The difference is, unlike most Americans, Jay Leno can afford to buy as many expensive, impractical, pieces of shit as he wants. It isn't a good sign when this bike would probably overtake his turbine engined bike as the least practical motorcycle he owns. Leno is far from a discerning consumer.

Dave 01-07-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 315949)
The difference is, unlike most Americans, Jay Leno can afford to buy as many expensive, impractical, pieces of shit as he wants. It isn't a good sign when this bike would probably overtake his turbine engined bike as the least practical motorcycle he owns. Leno is far from a discerning consumer.

yeouch

marko138 01-07-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor (Post 315932)
Don't hate just because he owns (and regularly drives) cars most of us just dream about :nee:

I seriously don't give a fuck about his cars, his bikes, or him. I just want his terrible show cancelled.

Adeptus_Minor 01-07-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 315956)
I just want his terrible show cancelled.

He has a show anymore?

Homeslice 01-07-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 315956)
I seriously don't give a fuck about his cars, his bikes, or him. I just want his terrible show cancelled.

He's not great, but it's still better than being forced to look at Conan's "haircut" for 90 minutes.

Speaking of which, NBC is going to give the first 30 minutes back to Jay, followed by Conan for the remaining 60.

Homeslice 01-07-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 315949)
The difference is, unlike most Americans, Jay Leno can afford to buy as many expensive, impractical, pieces of shit as he wants. It isn't a good sign when this bike would probably overtake his turbine engined bike as the least practical motorcycle he owns. Leno is far from a discerning consumer.

More discerning than the Sultan of Brunei and similar Middle Eastern and Indonesian royalty who never worked a day in their lives, who purchase 20-30 of the same model just because they want one of each color. As far as I know, Leno only buys 1 of each model.

goof2 01-07-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 316108)
More discerning than the Sultan of Brunei and similar Middle Eastern and Indonesian royalty who never worked a day in their lives, who purchase 20-30 of the same model just because they want one of each color. As far as I know, Leno only buys 1 of each model.

That's like saying you are more discerning than Wilt Chamberlain when it comes to women.:lol:

I'm not knocking Leno's vehicles. Its his money, he can buy whatever strikes his fancy. From what I have seen some of Leno's purchasing decisions are made based on how unique, interesting, or historic a vehicle is. I love some of the vehicles he has. Some I don't like at all. Either way, his buying criteria are much different than mine and his purchasing decisions in no way affect my opinion of a vehicle.

My opinion of this vehicle remains that it will be an expensive, impractical, piece of shit. This is based on the simple fact that if on average you only use 1/3 of those 48hp on the base version you aren't even going to get 1 hour out of the 10 Kwh battery. That is with perfect efficiency in the electronic system and drivetrain, something that is impossible to do. Testing may change my mind, but based on what they are claiming I remain confident it will suck.:td:

101lifts2 01-07-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 315273)
Your ass is ballin, why you worried about saving gas money.

Dude ur makin more than me...U ballin.

Oh yeah it's SPORTBIKE not sportSbike.

defector 01-08-2010 11:23 AM

I know it isn't the same, but I got a chance to ride a ZERO Bike set up for supermoto and it was alright, but nothing special.

OneSickPsycho 01-08-2010 05:07 PM

What I find more interesting is the fact that there's an electric only race series... when did that happen?

Dave 01-08-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 316605)
What I find more interesting is the fact that there's an electric only race series... when did that happen?

last isle of man, a one make vespa series would be faster

OneSickPsycho 01-08-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 316608)
last isle of man, a one make vespa series would be faster

Hey, I'm all for something to goose this technology.


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