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Triple

03-23-2010 03:49 PM

Braided lines?

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Rider

03-23-2010 03:55 PM

Personally I wouldn't buy that shit but it's your wallet.

Trip	03-23-2010 03:59 PM

I think its worth it to spend on proven quality when it comes to brakes. They are somewhat important.

azoomm

03-23-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 352483)

Personally I wouldn't buy that shit but it's your wallet.

I wouldn't either. Brakes are REALLY important.

ontwo

03-23-2010 04:01 PM

I think you should go as cheap as possible on the brakes. Save the cash for a cool fender eliminator or tank pad

tommymac

03-23-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 352488)

I wouldn't either. Brakes are REALLY important.

Meh you will stop eventualy so whats the big deal :lol:

CrazyKell

03-23-2010 04:19 PM

I have kevlar lines. I think they're cheaper than braided. Try them.

Particle Man

03-23-2010 04:24 PM

I figure brakes are like helmets: buy the best you can afford.

BobTheBiker

03-23-2010 05:04 PM

yep. I wouldnt buy those. name brand only for brake components, just like helmets.

Homeslice

03-23-2010 07:03 PM

Well $100 for brand-name lines is a ripoff IMO. Isn't that what they charge for Galfer at Cycle Gear? It probably costs them $5-10 to make. :lol:

was92v

03-23-2010 07:41 PM

For that price it would be worth buying one just to try and tear it up. If you can't pull the ends off or burst it, you know what ya got. If it does come apart, ya also know what ya got, and it didn't cost much to find out...

Amber Lamps

03-23-2010 07:47 PM

These guys handle Galfer and only charge $5 for custom lengths...they may not be the cheapest though.... I will say this, Galfer has never let me down in any way.

Rangerscott

03-23-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 352583)

These guys handle Galfer and only charge $5 for custom lengths...they may not be the cheapest though.... I will say this, Galfer has never let me down in any way.

OEM has never let me down. LOL

The kevlar sounds interesting.

Trip	03-23-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 352627)

OEM has never let me down.

I have had some scary moments with OEM squishiness.

No Worries

03-24-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 352656)

The material these guys use is automotive grade, so that doesn't really concern me. I wonder about the connections with the fittings and their weather-resistance, however.

I agree. The material is important, but how they crimp the connections together is even more important. I've had a set of Russell braided lines on my Suzuki for over 25 years.

Amber Lamps

03-24-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 352656)

Not just custom lengths, but fittings as well. I'm using a master cylinder and calipers that were never originally matched with one another, and the line for one is not a good fit for the other.

The material these guys use is automotive grade, so that doesn't really concern me. I wonder about the connections with the fittings and their weather-resistance, however.

Hey, I forgot to post the link,

I've dealt with these guys before, very helpful.

http://www.cyclebrakes.com/html/galfer_brake_lines.html

Particle Man

03-24-2010 07:32 AM

I just ordered Galfer lines for my SV - I'll let you know how they are. :)

marko138

03-24-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ontwo (Post 352490)

I think you should go as cheap as possible on the brakes. Save the cash for a cool fender eliminator or tank pad

:rf:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyKell (Post 352505)

I have kevlar lines. I think they're cheaper than braided. Try them.

Kevlar expands. Not anywhere near as much as stock rubber, but SS braided is still superior.

Switch

03-24-2010 10:37 AM

I don't see an issue with it personally. If it is DOT rated, then there you have it. Many people I know have gone to this place in Knoxville, http://www.royalbrassandhose.com/, and gotten braided lines for about $20. As long as the quality is up to snuff, I think you'll be fine. You are just paying for a name with Galfer and Bridgestone, it's not like they get special stainless line that no one else has access to.

Kerry_129

03-24-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 352833)

Kevlar expands. Not anywhere near as much as stock rubber, but SS braided is still superior.

The braided covering has nothing to do with the rigidity of the line - it's just a covering/reinforcement. The increased resistance to expansion - 'squishiness' - is due to the more rigid teflon tubing.

ontwo

03-24-2010 10:58 AM

But I got a wristband and stickers with my Galfers

Amber Lamps

03-24-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerry_129 (Post 352872)

Agreed. The name-brands have a HIGH markup, and I can easily see being able to produce comparable lines for much lower cost. It's just a short length of tubing with 2 swaged ends - very easy to make, and not a lot to screw up.

The braided covering has nothing to do with the rigidity of the line - it's just a covering/reinforcement. The increased resistance to expansion - 'squishiness' - is due to the more rigid teflon tubing.

Wait, the stainless steel braided cover DOES NOT limit the lines expansion?!?

REALLY? So you could make a rubber line with a teflon inner core and it would be the same?:idk:

Kerry_129

03-24-2010 11:41 AM

Yep, pretty certain that's the case. If you look at the braiding of the sheath, it's cross-woven. It expands to slip over the tubing, and wouldn't do anything to resist expanding outward if the tubing core expanded (the expansion we're talking about it TINY).

A high-pressure hydraulic line, on the other hand, typically will have a spiral-wound reinforcing wire which actually does reinforce/limit the line's expansion.

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